Parking stories in the News/media

1505grandad

What could possibly go wrong:-

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/uk-s-most-expensive-car-park-where-it-costs-50-for-just-one-hour/ar-AA1O85Mo?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=68e784284fc142fa8d620d6cd70d4775&ei=145

Seems to be Parking Control Management (UK) Ltd:-

"Residents have voted to introduce what is believed to be Britain's most costly parking charges - to prevent outsiders from pinching their spaces. Fresh tariffs are now in force at Springfield Park in Maidstone, Kent - with the initial hour now setting motorists back a staggering £50."

Near the end of article:-

""The result of the changes to the parking bay charges means that there are now two separate tariffs for leaseholders and their authorised visitors, and those for members of the general public. For leaseholders and their visitors, parking charges start from 70p an hour. For members of the general public, from £50 an hour."

Car1980

You might argue that with such an onerous hourly charge, a "typical" tariff board would not be sufficient to form a contract. It's certainly no larger or differently designed and as it is clearly a punitive charging system, something out of the ordinary would be required. Would it look like a typo to the man on the Clapham Omnibus?

Looks like it would fall foul of the CRA 2015.

Coupon-mad

Looks like it would fall foul of the CRA 2015.

Not if the price term and the other charges that could arise are adequately (prominently and unambiguously) displayed.

There is no CRA test of fairness for prices.

What PCM can do (going by the Joint Code IIRC) is issue a £50 unpaid tariff notice plus £60.

But I very much doubt all those various charges and/or the added £70 fake fee are prominently and unambiguously on the signs.

The residents there are deluded. The permit scheme will be onerous and the targets will be them, their unsuspecting visitors, delivery drivers, cleaners, carers and other tradespeople. All of whom will have reason to be there but will start getting £50+£60 demands like confetti.

Car1980

Not on price, no. But it's an ordinary tariff board and the prices are actually not that prominent.

It would fail the test on transparency - it looks like an ordinary tariff board with the decimal point in the wrong place. 

But "ordinary" contract law would see a problem with meeting of minds an intent to form a legal relation with clearly punitive charges I suspect.

Kaizen2024

An example of a workaround should a ridiculously cheap Parking Charge cap be introduced by Gov.

Car1980

Not really, as this is just an attempt to get around the particular forbidding "no parking at any time" scenario (even though there is a separate no parking instruction adjacent bizarrely).

In context it looks a load of nonsense, but the residents apparently "designed the system themselves" 

The CPS "you can park here without a permit for £100" system is at least clearer, albeit questionable.

ChirpyChicken

Bazarius said:

Kaizen2024 said:

An example of a workaround should a ridiculously cheap Parking Charge cap be introduced by Gov.

We already knew this flaw in the Statutory Code and it would be abused by the parking industry . 

It’s not “ridiculously cheap parking charge cap”  it’s a fair reflection to the breach . It would be ridiculous to charge £100 for touching the line , 1 character miskey , disabled parking industry a ridiculously small disabled space through no fault of their own. £100 to park in your own space , slipped permit etc . 

Grow up and stop the  anti consumer propaganda and get your house in order 

Indeed
They always like to blame the motorist.
Its always some else's fault

Coupon-mad

Kaizen2024 said:

An example of a workaround should a ridiculously cheap Parking Charge cap be introduced by Gov.

They won't introduce a ridiculously 'cheap' level and personally, I've never suggested they should. The ban on the 'escalation' fee extortion is the absolute must have for consumer protection reasons and to call a halt to the 'first resort' DRAs & litigation incentive.

Aren't your industry at all ashamed that DVLA requests are on target for 17.5 million per annum, easily beating total LA data requests?

Aren't your industry at all ashamed of the half a million court claims and CCJ misery inflicted on the public for jumped up invoices?

Aren't your industry ashamed of the fact that both recent governments found your MO to be indicative of market failure?

DE_612183

Coupon-mad said:

Kaizen2024 said:

An example of a workaround should a ridiculously cheap Parking Charge cap be introduced by Gov.

They won't introduce a ridiculously 'cheap' level and personally, I've never suggested they should. The ban on the 'escalation' fee extortion is the absolute must have for consumer protection reasons and to call a halt to the 'first resort' DRAs & litigation incentive.

Aren't your industry at all ashamed that DVLA requests are on target for 17.5 million per annum, easily beating total LA data requests?

Aren't your industry at all ashamed of the half a million court claims and CCJ misery you inflict on the public for jumped up invoices?

Aren't your industry ashamed of the fact that both recent governments finding your MO to be indicative of market failure?

17.5 million - isn't that about one third of all vehicles getting a PCN each year - surely common sense dictates that statistic can't be right and therefore something must be wrong in the way PCNs are issued?

pustit

Kaizen - continuous improvement.  The only thing he wants to improve is his scamming income