Parking stories in the News/media

Jenni_D

ParkingMad said:

Link to today’s episode. Private parking starts at around 30 minutes in-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001zq8c/rip-off-britain-series-16-9-cut-off-from-my-landline

Quote from the BPA regarding the withdrawn code:

The legal action threatened by some parking operators related to elements which some firms felt could impact negatively on some motorists.

Start point is just after 31 mins in.  

An interesting watch ... total piffle from the BPA at the end of the segment, but at least RAC Rod seemed to have his head screwed on.  

Le_Kirk

ParkingMad said:

Quote from the BPA regarding the withdrawn code:

The legal action threatened by some parking operators related to elements which some firms felt could impact negatively on some motorists.

The legal action threatened by some parking operators related to elements which some firms felt could impact negatively on some motorists the profits of PPCs

Umkomaas

Le_Kirk said:

ParkingMad said:

Quote from the BPA regarding the withdrawn code:

The legal action threatened by some parking operators related to elements which some firms felt could impact negatively on some motorists.

The legal action threatened by some parking operators related to elements which some firms felt could impact negatively on some motorists the profits of PPCs

How could a reduction in the parking charge from £100 to £50 and the debt collection fee from £70 to £0 possibly impact negatively on some motorists (in fact, any motorist!).  Gibberish!

1505grandad

FWIW:-

https://www.ibisworld.com/united-kingdom/market-research-reports/car-parks-industry/#FrequentlyAskedQuestions

What is the market size of the Car Parks industry in the UK?

The market size of the Car Parks industry in the UK is measured at £1.2bn in 2024.

How fast is the Car Parks in the UK market projected to grow in the future?

Over the next five years, the Car Parks in the UK market is expected to decline. See purchase options to view the full report and get access to IBISWorld's forecast for the Car Parks in the UK from 2025 up to 2029.

How concentrated is the Car Parks market in the United Kingdom?

Market share concentration is low for the Car Parks industry in the UK, with the top four companies generating 32% of market revenue in United Kingdom in 2024. The level of competition is low overall, but is highest among smaller industry players.

Biggest companies in the Car Parks industry in the UK

Company                                                    Market Share (%)                                                 Revenue (£m)

                                                                     2024                                                                          2024 

National Car Parks Ltd                                                                                                                  180.5 

Q-Park Ltd                                                                                                                                      115.2

APCOA Parking (UK) Ltd                                                                                                                102.6 

Industry definition

Car Park operators in the sector are responsible for managing and overseeing car parking facilities. Their key source of income stems from imposing parking fees on drivers who use their services to park their cars or other vehicles. They ensure efficient use of space and provide a secure parking environment.

National Car Parks Ltd     Q-Park Ltd          APCOA Parking (UK) Ltd 

Euro Car Parks Ltd         ParkingEye Ltd        SABA Group UK Ltd

Q-Park Ltd (BPA)?  -  not seen anything about them on forum.

 

Coupon-mad

Umkomaas said:

Le_Kirk said:

ParkingMad said:

Quote from the BPA regarding the withdrawn code:

The legal action threatened by some parking operators related to elements which some firms felt could impact negatively on some motorists.

The legal action threatened by some parking operators related to elements which some firms felt could impact negatively on some motorists the profits of PPCs

How could a reduction in the parking charge from £100 to £50 and the debt collection fee from £70 to £0 possibly impact negatively on some motorists (in fact, any motorist!).  Gibberish!

Their spiel goes like this  (and I'm not quoting from any Steering Group work here, I have picked this up from BPA Articles, Parking News and the utter drivel spat out publicly by players in the industry when the DLUHC banned DRA fees in 2022):

They say that if DRA fees are banned, then the DRAs will no longer have capacity to "help resolve" parking cases (they offer important debt resolution, doncha know).

And the preposterous propaganda then says "therefore more cases will go straight to court."

Utter lies.

We all know what drives cases to court and CCJs. The parasite DRA industry, swimming in money from the £70 fees (per PCN) which makes court and a CCJ so damn easy that clearly, litigation and getting a shoo-in CCJ (at the touch of the 'request judgment' button, courtesy of the deludedly automated and claimant-favouring MCOL system) is the aim for many legals.

They also say, as we've all seen, that in their la-la land, "charges have to be high in order to be a deterrent" (despite scholarly articles saying the opposite), and if PCN values are too low, they say 'carmaggeddon' will ensue and car parks will close, to the detriment of the High Street.

Funny then, that LOTS of retail parks, hotels, churches and business car parks operate happily without a PPC.  A gate is enough.

How many £billions was it that Mazars famously imagined would be lost to the high street, in that laughable BPA rubbish?  They later parted company with Mazars... unconnected?

Jenni_D

9 billion?

Coupon-mad

Thought it was higher.  I don't really care because it was clearly hogwash!

Umkomaas

Jenni_D said:

9 billion?

Close, but no cigar .... £19.5 billion! 😜. Fantasy beyond comprehension!  How much damage did that nonsense do to the BPA's case?

https://www.britishparking-media.co.uk/news/government-proposals-to-reduce-parking-charges-will-lead-to-a-gbp-19-5-billion-hit-to-the-uk-economy

Coupon-mad

I think (hope) it must have hugely damaged any credibility they had.  It was pie in the sky scaremongering crap and was called out as such by various people in submissions to the last Public Consultation.

It's really odd that a greedy industry can't actually see when what they are saying is so preposterous that no-one would believe it.  Does no-one there give their head a wobble and say "hang in a minute guys..."

Jenni_D

Umkomaas said:

Jenni_D said:

9 billion?

Close, but no cigar .... £19.5 billion! 😜. Fantasy beyond comprehension!  How much damage did that nonsense do to the BPA's case?

https://www.britishparking-media.co.uk/news/government-proposals-to-reduce-parking-charges-will-lead-to-a-gbp-19-5-billion-hit-to-the-uk-economy

I knew there was a 9 in it. 😉😂