Parking stories in the News/media

Coupon-mad

1505grandad said:

Re discussions about delays for new PPCoP in this thread -  there has been a "niggle" in the back of my head. After opening various docs and using control F I eventually found the "niggle".

Hopefully I'm wasting everyone's time  -  and I have got the wrong end of the stick  -  in thinking that THIS may mean another delay?:-

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/64b6666a0ea2cb001315e47b/Draft_IA_-_Private_Parking_Code_of_Practice_.pdf

4.9

…………...The ability to continue driving as individuals become older is also a fundamental

determinant of the quality of life among older adults10. 24% of news articles and 19% of

Departmental correspondence related to private parking reported the penalisation of

vulnerable customers/equality issues. Poor practices on the part of private parking

operators may particularly impact these more vulnerable groups. The Government will 

carry out a full Equalities Impact Assessment on the Code when the decisions on parking

charge levels and debt recovery fees are made, before re-laying the Code in Parliament.

Equalities assessment

10.5 to

10.7 ......…...An Equalities Impact Assessment will also be undertaken when the decisions

on parking charge levels and debt recovery fees are taken, before the Code is re-laid in

Parliament.

I would guess that has likely already been done because they must have made decisions on parking charge levels and debt recovery fees by now, given that the final Draft IA and Public Consultation is long overdue and anticipated.

I am not party to those decisions but I have voiced my opinion and continued to feed evidence. Done all I can...

But I don't think an Equalities Impact Assessment will take too long, so I don't see this delaying things more.

patient_dream

Umkomaas said:

patient_dream said:

Before I read this article, it had to be UKPCM. 
AND THE SCAM IPC / IAS bunch

Possibly more rubbish for Gladstones to get involved with

Parking firm tries to charge furious homeowners to park on their own land - threatening them with £100 fine if they don't pay up

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13435639/Parking-charge-homeowners-fine.html

Nah - UKCPM!  Different rodent, vermin nonetheless!

Oh dear, it's my Husky, who is still learning to type

1505grandad

Didn't think necessary to start a new thread but I am interested in the following re AoS members list (unless I am missing something):-

Just wondering which CoP they are using to use KADOE -  their privacy page state they obtain keeper details :-

(Also has an address in Preston although different person/address from another ANPR entity recently discussed)

BPA AoS list  -  ANPR 365 LTD www.anpr365.co.uk

IPC AoS list  -  ANPR365

                        www.anpr365.co.uk

In view of C-m post:-

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/72529600/#Comment_72529600

Umkomaas

1505grandad said:

Didn't think necessary to start a new thread but I am interested in the following re AoS members list (unless I am missing something):-

Just wondering which CoP they are using to use KADOE -  their privacy page state they obtain keeper details :-

(Also has an address in Preston although different person/address from another ANPR entity recently discussed)

BPA AoS list  -  ANPR 365 LTD www.anpr365.co.uk

IPC AoS list  -  ANPR365

                        www.anpr365.co.uk

In view of C-m post:-

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/72529600/#Comment_72529600

Spotted that earlier when researching the (re)emergence of owd Trev's ANPR Ltd, albeit under a new, but well recognised name (think HX Parking/ES Parking Enforcement).  Something a bit fishy oop north!

Half_way

Travelled through the Derbyshire Peak district over the weekend, and spotted this on a social media page local to the area:

 https://belperindependents.co.uk/

from their Facebook page, showing the impact of PPCs

** A TALE OF TWO BANK HOLIDAY TOWNS **

Wasn’t it lovely to see the sunshine today - a welcome change for a bank holiday Monday!

And clearly thousands of visitors to Derbyshire agreed, with local radio advising people that Matlock Bath car parks were full by 12:30 hours.

Thanks to a Belper day-tripper for sending us this photo at 13:10 hours showing us just how busy it was up there today.

Back in our town, at our historic Belper Mills, the normally bustling bank holiday weekend car parks were almost completely empty.

“It’s them bloody hideous car parking signs. They are putting people off stopping here - it is so much quieter around the Mills today,” complained a local Belper business-owner who did not wish to be named.

So we decided to pop down to the Grade I Listed location to check it out.

As we approached the ugly, newly-installed “Strutts Mill Car Park” signage, it was impossible not to observe just how quiet the car parks were.

We watched several vehicles and vans approach the so-called, self-styled “charity” car park. Most of the cars slowed on approach, before dithering and then turning away and moving on.

So we decided to speak to some of the visitors to ask why they’d decided not to stay.

“We’ve come for a day out - but we didn’t realise you had to pay to park here - and it all looks a bit complicated,” explained a visitor from Nottingham. “I think we will go to Cromford and see the Mills up there instead.”

“I only wanted to call in and get a bacon cob from the van,” said a workman on his way to a plumbing emergency. “But there’s no way I am going to get a ticket in my work van. I don’t trust these limited companies who run the car parking enforcement as I’ve been caught out before at a similar set-up. I’ll just nip to McDonalds at Ripley instead.”

“It’s just like when they pedestrianised King Street and made it a one-way road - that ruined footfall in Belper. And this is just another kick in the teeth for what’s left of our tourist trade,” shouted a passerby on the other side of the road.

Councillor Ben Bellamy says: “It is clear that these signs are having a detrimental impact on visitors staying in our town. These car parks, especially on the North Mill side, are usually very busy on a bank holiday, helping to bring much-needed money into our local economy. The giant nature of the signs, and the enforcement action messages on them, are clearly putting people off stopping. I’ve been in touch with the planning enforcement team at Amber Valley Borough Council to seek the removal of the signs as a matter of urgency.”

Watch this space for updates.

A quick search on Google also shows this area not only to be listed but a UNESCO world heritage area, so the planning permission/advertising consent issues around PPPC signage and ANPR cameras may be a little more involved than the usual lack of advertising/planning consent

https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1030/

Local Councillor as mentioned in the above:

 https://www.belpertowncouncil.gov.uk/people/councillor-ben-bellamy/

patient_dream

BBC RIP OFF BRITAIN TODAY

Towards the end, of the show, it's about PRIVATE PARKING

The BPA making comments that they are introducing a CODE of PRACTICE which we know about.

Just more propaganda and rubbish from the BPA

The motorist does NOT need or want this BPA when there is a law for a new code of practice .......  Yours is NOT a law, you are unregulated and means nothing whatsoever

You can watch it back on iPlayer

ParkingMad

Link to today’s episode. Private parking starts at around 30 minutes in-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001zq8c/rip-off-britain-series-16-9-cut-off-from-my-landline

Quote from the BPA regarding the withdrawn code:

The legal action threatened by some parking operators related to elements which some firms felt could impact negatively on some motorists.

daveyjp

Twitter report of Premierinn St Albans operator issuing invoices to visitors who have validated their reg and have photo proof of reg being accepted.

1505grandad

No wonder DVLA have no wish to act responsibly/practice due diligence while helping with the rip-off:-

"Motorists in Britain are sent more than 35,000 parking tickets every day by private companies - and the DVLA is raking in almost £90,000 per day as a result, new analysis reveals."

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-13201071/Drivers-issued-35-000-fines-day-private-parking-firms-DVLA-continues-sell-details-operators-2-50-pop.html

patient_dream

1505grandad said:

No wonder DVLA have no wish to act responsibly/practice due diligence while helping with the rip-off:-

"Motorists in Britain are sent more than 35,000 parking tickets every day by private companies - and the DVLA is raking in almost £90,000 per day as a result, new analysis reveals."

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-13201071/Drivers-issued-35-000-fines-day-private-parking-firms-DVLA-continues-sell-details-operators-2-50-pop.html

If government had brains they might realise there is a pot of gold available from the DVLA  that could fix all the potholes, at least most ?

Sadly pigs will fly before they wake up