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  • Elms Legal are having a laugh:

    "We would like to state for the record that our client, Vehicle Control Services Ltd, is a professional car parking operator with many years of experience and that all of their managed car parks are subject to rigorous scrutiny, especially in relation to signage, by their professional auditory body, known as the International Parking Community (IPC), in the first instance."


    Hahahaha!!!

    Pull the other one, it's got bells on.
    The face one can have to leave such a statement on paper. IPC is operated by Will Hurley, in the past Director of Gladstones Solicitors. Gladstones Solicitors, directed by John Davies, specialize in debt recovery, often working with private car park operators to collect unpaid parking fines, offering specialised litigation service. John Davies was previously Director of IPC and currently sits in the The IPC Steering Committee. The Independent Appeals Service (IAS) is administered by The International Parking Community, IPC. I don't see anything "professional" in all this chain.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 19 June 2023 at 11:54PM
    And take a bow North West Parking Management - NWPM -because you managed to trick a victim into thinking he had to pay when he (obviously) 'lost' the farce of your 'appeals process':

    https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/people/visitor-fined-after-app-glitch-when-trying-to-pay-at-hartlepool-marina-car-park-4188633

    "North West Parking Management, which runs the car park and provides Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) services, has said the payment services offered to car park users on Hartlepool Marina are provided by independent third party companies.

    The company added:

    “We do not own Hartlepool Marina car park and only provide an ANPR enforcement service on this site.  As clearly shown by all the signage on site the telephone and app payment services are provided by Your Parking Space and the cashless machines are provided by Metric Ltd.”

    So what, NWPM?


    Shane, who came to Hartlepool for a day out, ended up paying the reduced charge of £60 but said:

    "I won’t go back to that particular car park, I’ll try to find somewhere else to park.”


    The IPC must be so proud...

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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 22 June 2023 at 1:55AM
    Here we go again.

    ParkingEye : WHY do you not have an extra 'excluding' camera to exempt drivers using the petrol station? They aren't parked!

    Have we seen this latest cowboy ANPR 'auto-PCN machine' rubbish?
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/we-were-fined-70-waiting-30291769.amp

    "We were fined £70 while waiting to use Asda car wash - we won't be going back"

    A disabled woman was fined £70 after she queued for 15 minutes to use an Asda car wash.

    Danielle Tucker waited to use a self-service jet wash at the 24-hour garage on June 4 at the Asda petrol station in Northfield Avenue, Kettering, Northants, before receiving a fine days later.

    "Two girls were already using it so we had to wait 15 minutes for our turn. Ten days later we received a letter saying we had been fined £70 for staying too long in the car park.

    I was shocked, I was using their service. How does that make sense. Luckily I paid on my card. When I got the letter I was p**d right off. At first I was like 'what the hell have I got that for?'

    How can you get a parking ticket when you're using a service? It was the most expensive car wash I've had."

    ParkingEye have since cancelled the 'fine'.

    A spokesperson said:

    {snip}

    BLAH BLAH ... USUAL DROSS ABOUT HAVING SIGNS UP AND BEING IN THE BPA

    {snip}


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  • Umkomaas
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    Not much sympathy for her in the Comments!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • patient_dream
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    Umkomaas said:
    Not much sympathy for her in the Comments!

    Damn rude, and clueless:

    "So it’s not Asda fault then it’s the company who run the cameras. Which it would state on the letter. Bad mouthing the wrong company."

    "Funny how they are always disabled, does that make a difference with someone getting a fine or not?"

    "If it was just some bloke on his way home from work why would it be less of a thing? Everyone would be saying he should have read the signs."


    So glad we are the ones informing the Government and not Mirror/Daily Mail readers who think it's all OK if it's on the signs, and not Asda's fault.


    I think it's fair to say, that such comments come from the children of the lessor parking companies and probably the legals.

    Wonder what house holders will say when they cannot afford food or mortgage payments and get a scammers ticket ?

    Rishi has now very limited time to get his ministers, mainly Gove, to put a stop to the UK's biggest scam ...... private parking companies

    On TV today, I watched Sundak preaching to IKEA staff, it reminded me of business opportunity ponzi scheme, Sundak making promises he can never keep

    Sundak, get rid of Gove ..... he alone could destroy you

    For those not understamding. Gove is in charge of LEVELING UP and that involves the great british PARKING SCAM

    Sundak is not a real PM, we never voted for him, he is a momey making  ex banker who is totaly oblivious to the real world

  • Umkomaas
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    Umkomaas said:
    Not much sympathy for her in the Comments!

    Damn rude, and clueless:

    "So it’s not Asda fault then it’s the company who run the cameras. Which it would state on the letter. Bad mouthing the wrong company."

    "Funny how they are always disabled, does that make a difference with someone getting a fine or not?"

    "If it was just some bloke on his way home from work why would it be less of a thing? Everyone would be saying he should have read the signs."


    So glad we are the ones informing the Government and not Mirror/Daily Mail readers who think it's all OK if it's on the signs, and not Asda's fault.


    I think it's fair to say, that such comments come from the children of the lessor parking companies and probably the legals.

    Wonder what house holders will say when they cannot afford food or mortgage payments and get a scammers ticket ?

    Rishi has now very limited time to get his ministers, mainly Gove, to put a stop to the UK's biggest scam ...... private parking companies

    On TV today, I watched Sundak preaching to IKEA staff, it reminded me of business opportunity ponzi scheme, Sundak making promises he can never keep

    Sundak, get rid of Gove ..... he alone could destroy you

    For those not understamding. Gove is in charge of LEVELING UP and that involves the great british PARKING SCAM

    Sundak is not a real PM, we never voted for him, he is a momey making  ex banker who is totaly oblivious to the real world

    Sunak, buddy ..... Sunak. 🥸
    he is a momey making  ex banker who is totaly oblivious to the real world
    I wouldn't mind being a few ZAR behind him!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Coupon-mad
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    Here's another disabled person scammed by ANPR 'auto-PCN-printers'.

    APCOA at Brighton station are dead easy to push over (and these specific railway Penalty Notices time out after 6 months) so I've no idea why this took 18 months:

    https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2023/06/22/couple-wins-18-month-dispute-over-parking-fine-at-brighton-station/

    No laughing at the back...
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    edited 23 June 2023 at 12:23AM
    And take a bow NPE for ruining people's lives at their own homes, a place where ANPR is obviously not appropriate:
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1782529/parking-threat-fines-cars-kent/amp

    "National Parking Enforcement Ltd has been approached for comment."

    I bet they have. The IPC must be so proud.  Apparently, this is parking management:

    The housing association homes in Caxton Close are managed by Clarion Housing Group, while NPE is 'ruining' the parking.

    The rules say drivers must use a marked bay for a permit to be valid. But there are a dozen fewer bays than there are homes with permits, and in particular, all visitors appear to be fair game.

    Fitz Richards, 62, who moved in just six months ago, says three people who have come to visit him have received fines.

    He said: “One of the people fined was my carer, who is here for a few hours on a daily basis."

    Resident Angela Clark, 39, has been fined twice despite having a permit.  She says the ANPR cameras were installed more than a year ago but have only been active since the scheme was introduced last month.

    She explained: “The cameras were supposed to be a way to deter people from parking here and walking up the high street.

    “They will go on our maintenance bill, which we will have to pay for in September. So not only do we have to pay for a parking permit each year and the cameras, but we are also paying for the fines.

    My appeal got rejected because they say I’m not registered, but I am and I can prove that.”

    Residents say at least 23 people have already been penalised by automatic number-plate recognition (ANPR) cameras in the first four weeks of the scheme.

    Among them is Robert Lake, who has lived in Caxton Close for 15 years and who relies on his children to help care for his wife, who has dementia.

    82 year old Mr Lake - who says he has tried and failed to get his children a visitors’ permit - says the scheme has left them "scared to visit".

    Fellow resident Raymond Bridges, 67, also said the rules had left him feeling isolated.

    He said: “We haven’t actually had a fine yet, but our family used to come and visit on a regular basis but we are now frightened to have them round because of what has been going on.  There are 27 bays and 38 flats, so we are already 11 bays short."


    SHAME ON YOU:

    Clarion Housing Group And NPE are named and shamed.  
    Who the hell thought ANPR would ever be fair and workable at people's homes, so now none of them can have visitors or deliveries let alone park their own cars!

    Looks like an ICO Surveillance Camera policy breach to me, not that anyone cares, as the Surveillance Camera Ombudsman is being phased out.
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