PCN for double dipping without stopping

patient_dream

They can cancel whenever they want, when they discontinue just before a hearing, that is cancellation

Half_way

Even if you have location servies switched off on your phone something may have still been recorded , on a computer not a phone or tablet go to a web browser ie chrome, and thhen go to google maps, log into the sam google account that you have on your phone, click on the menu icon ( three lnes to the left top) and select your timeline select the date you want.

 Next click  on the gear icon at the bottom right and select show raw data you will see the timeline on the map now has red blbobs, zoom in and hover over one of the blobs and you wll see the time at that location.

As for the double dip, double dips need to be treated for what they are - breaches of GDPR with PPCs (and  by extension landowners ) both getting the same level of tolerance that they give to motorists - that is zero .

 I dont know if its in any forthcoming code of practice, but ANPR double dips should result in the PPC and people realted to the PPC  having access to the DVLA data removed , so for example if VCS have a Double dip case, then Excel should also lose access due to the link with Simmon reshaw smith

Chilts

Now got the local councillor willing to write to them on my behalf too. 

95Rollers

patient_dream said:

They can cancel whenever they want, when they discontinue just before a hearing, that is cancellation

You are right there.  What I meant was in regards to a landowner cancellation. Some parking companies have a contract clause with landowners saying they will have to bear the brunt of an admin charge/ penalty fee themselves if they wish to cancel a customers PCN once its gone past debt collection/ court stage. They are pretty much on to the debt collector agencies before the initial 28 days is up. Not all firms have this so it is definitely worth trying still. A lot of landowners have Contractual Overrides where what they say goes no matter how far its gone. Always worth doing plan A.

If they don't play ball or won't help then expose them with a candid review on Trustpilot, Trip Advisor or their Social Media platforms as well as Local Community Groups on social media to warn others.

The_Slithy_Tove

95Rollers said:

Some parking companies have a contract clause with landowners saying they will have to bear the brunt of an admin charge/ penalty fee themselves if they wish to cancel a customers PCN once its gone past debt collection/ court stage. 

Frankly that's their problem and not the OP's. If landowners want to sign up to such disadvantageous contracts, that's their lookout. Don't let them say "there's nothing we can do", when they really mean "there's nothing we can do without it costing us."

Chilts

A quick update - The parking company don’t seem to know what they’re doing. 

In reply to my SAR, they stated that they had already denied my appeal and can’t accept this as another appeal. They also stated that in my first denial, I was informed that I could appeal to the IAS, however, this simply isn’t true as they completely failed to miss that piece of information from the letter and instead asked for me to provide them with further evidence. 

What do you wise people recommend that I do next? 

 I’ve drafted a reply as they seem to be tying themselves into knots here. 

I’ve been in contact with a local councillor, who commented that I wasn’t the first to complain to her about a similar issue. 

Half_way

The_Slithy_Tove said:

95Rollers said:

Some parking companies have a contract clause with landowners saying they will have to bear the brunt of an admin charge/ penalty fee themselves if they wish to cancel a customers PCN once its gone past debt collection/ court stage. 

Frankly that's their problem and not the OP's. If landowners want to sign up to such disadvantageous contracts, that's their lookout. Don't let them say "there's nothing we can do", when they really mean "there's nothing we can do without it costing us."

As per above, if not already mentioned where is this car park?
Also any luck with Google maps timeline as previous post?

My instinct would be to come down on the landowner like a ton of bricks

Fruitcake

Have you made the complaints to the ICO and DVLA about this data breach as suggested? 

Did you complain to your MP?

Le_Kirk

Chilts said:

A quick update - The parking company don’t seem to know what they’re doing. 

In reply to my SAR, they stated that they had already denied my appeal and can’t accept this as another appeal. They also stated that in my first denial, I was informed that I could appeal to the IAS, however, this simply isn’t true as they completely failed to miss that piece of information from the letter and instead asked for me to provide them with further evidence. 

What do you wise people recommend that I do next? 

I would go back to them and state that a SAR is not an appeal but is your statutory right (under GDPR) to receive all the data that the PPC holds on you and they must supply it or be reported to the ICO.  What does this mean, it is a double negative and makes no sense!

Chilts

Le_Kirk said:

Chilts said:

A quick update - The parking company don’t seem to know what they’re doing. 

In reply to my SAR, they stated that they had already denied my appeal and can’t accept this as another appeal. They also stated that in my first denial, I was informed that I could appeal to the IAS, however, this simply isn’t true as they completely failed to miss that piece of information from the letter and instead asked for me to provide them with further evidence. 

What do you wise people recommend that I do next? 

I would go back to them and state that a SAR is not an appeal but is your statutory right (under GDPR) to receive all the data that the PPC holds on you and they must supply it or be reported to the ICO.  What does this mean, it is a double negative and makes no sense!

Sorry, I’m on holiday and trying to do this on my phone. It should have said that they completely failed to include that piece of information.