People crossing the road at junctions

ontheroad1970

JustAnotherSaver said:

sevenhills said:

zagfles said:

Read the introduction to rule H2. It states "At a junction you should give way to pedestrians crossing or waiting to cross a road into which or from which you are turning." You don't need to give way to pedestrians if you're going straight on, just if you're turning.

So if you are at a junction turning left, the traffic light is green, but when a pedestrian approaches you need to stop and let them pass?

Never mind that.

I walked a different route home today past a school this dinner time & literally as they pour out of the door they're falling on to a zebra crossing.

Poor drivers. I thought they were going to be there until school was out some 3-4 hours later. Kids stopping in the middle of the crossing shouting back to their mates walking up the pavement away from the direction that kid on the crossing was going to be walking.

Other kids on the crossing just generally clowning around.

That's the problem with todays you can't touch me I can do what I want mentality.

So you'd like to just be able to run them over if they take too long.  How very cavalier.

Jenni_D

No, they'd rather the kids learned how to properly use the roads and crossings, and showed some respect for others. However we all know that's a forlorn hope. 🙄

zagfles

Jenni_D said:

No, they'd rather the kids learned how to properly use the roads and crossings, and showed some respect for others. However we all know that's a forlorn hope. 🙄

Well the reason we have so many pelican crossings is because some motorists don't respect or understand zebra crossings so need a red light to get them to stop. I'd wager far more motorists' time is wasted sat at red lights at pelicans with no-one crossing than is wasted by kids messing around on zebras.

newlywed

I have noticed more cars stopping for me to cross, but definitely not the majority. I live in a city where everyone’s in a rush so it’s quite a nice unusual change.  But I would never assume they were going to stop or had seen me.

in fact one car turning into a single lane road stopped to let an older chap cross, I started crossing from the other side, older chap waved the car on, driver didn’t even look at me and I had to leap back to the pavement!

shiraz99

I must admit I've yet to see any car driver follow these rules so far.

There's a road junction up from me leading onto a busy dual lane road which has  lot of pedestrians crossing the road at the junction due to it being a main shopping area but I've never seen a car turning off the main road stop for a pedestrian. Probably because the road is that busy that they're more concentrating on getting a gap in the oncoming traffic to cross over (right turners) and don't want to block the road if they have to then stop for a pedestrian. TBH, it's an accident waiting to happen.

Jenni_D

zagfles said:

Jenni_D said:

No, they'd rather the kids learned how to properly use the roads and crossings, and showed some respect for others. However we all know that's a forlorn hope. 🙄

Well the reason we have so many pelican crossings is because some motorists don't respect or understand zebra crossings so need a red light to get them to stop. I'd wager far more motorists' time is wasted sat at red lights at pelicans with no-one crossing than is wasted by kids messing around on zebras.

The lights at Pelican crossings aren't on a timer ... someone must have pressed the button.

Bigphil1474

It's usually a case of someone pressing the button, then crossing when there's a break in traffic rather than waiting for the lights to change, or some local scroat has superglued a matchstick or similar to the button. 

jon81uk

Not sure what issue the OP has. The Highway Code seems quite clear to me.
The hierarchy of road users is explained here Introduction - The Highway Code - Guidance - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)
This picture and caption illustrates the answer to this discussion.

Rule H2: Wait for the pedestrian to cross the junction before turning. This applies if you are turning right or left into the junction.

brianposter

sevenhills said:

So if you are at a junction turning left, the traffic light is green, but when a pedestrian approaches you need to stop and let them pass?

It has never been clear that the modern version of the rules is actually sensible.

sheramber

Jenni_D said:

zagfles said:

Jenni_D said:

No, they'd rather the kids learned how to properly use the roads and crossings, and showed some respect for others. However we all know that's a forlorn hope. 🙄

Well the reason we have so many pelican crossings is because some motorists don't respect or understand zebra crossings so need a red light to get them to stop. I'd wager far more motorists' time is wasted sat at red lights at pelicans with no-one crossing than is wasted by kids messing around on zebras.

The lights at Pelican crossings aren't on a timer ... someone must have pressed the button.

Pressed it in passing and walked on. Yes, seen that done.