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UKPC- No PCN and £170 invoice from ZZPS debt collectors- What to do???

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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 28 March 2022 at 10:26AM
    You need to read other LBC threads, if you didn't realise what we are hitting solicitors with at pre-action letter stage.  Yes, email them.
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  • JustAUser
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    Umkomaas said:
    JustAUser said:
    Not at this stage.  SRA won't be interested. There is no breach of standards for demanding what their client wants to demand.  

    However, do respond with the usual reply about the DLUHC's new Code banning fake debt recovery 'costs' and state that if a claim is issued with those enhanced/fake costs added, knowing they are banned and branded 'extortion' by the Govt, it will show a lack of good faith and honesty from them and their client.
    Thank you for your quick reply. 

    You say respond, do you mean respond to the solicitors? Or is this something I would add to the defence (when they eventually take me to court as it seems like)?
    Hit the solicitors with it now  You might be able to head them off (even if it's just on the added costs).  You will have set your stall out early and should they continue with the added costs element to the claim you can refer to your correspondence in any subsequent court papers.  By ignoring your response, you could argue, indicates an unreasonableness on their part. 
    Thank you for this. I will see if I could draft up something. 
  • JustAUser
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    edited 28 March 2022 at 11:09AM
    You need to read other LBC threads, if you didn't realise what we are hitting solicitors with at pre-action letter stage.  Yes, email them.
    That's the thing, it is not explicitly labelled as "Letter Before Claim" as I have seen on other solicitor letters. However, it does say that if I don't pay the full amount, they'll issue County Court Proceedings against me. 

    Which would make it a LBC I suppose. 

  • Umkomaas
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    JustAUser said:
    Umkomaas said:
    JustAUser said:
    Not at this stage.  SRA won't be interested. There is no breach of standards for demanding what their client wants to demand.  

    However, do respond with the usual reply about the DLUHC's new Code banning fake debt recovery 'costs' and state that if a claim is issued with those enhanced/fake costs added, knowing they are banned and branded 'extortion' by the Govt, it will show a lack of good faith and honesty from them and their client.
    Thank you for your quick reply. 

    You say respond, do you mean respond to the solicitors? Or is this something I would add to the defence (when they eventually take me to court as it seems like)?
    Hit the solicitors with it now  You might be able to head them off (even if it's just on the added costs).  You will have set your stall out early and should they continue with the added costs element to the claim you can refer to your correspondence in any subsequent court papers.  By ignoring your response, you could argue, indicates an unreasonableness on their part. 
    Thank you for this. I will see if I could draft up something. 
    You might want to add a little bit to that, using the draft produced on @jabfish's thread. 

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6309928/breach-of-kadoe-complaint-to-dvla#latest
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  • JustAUser
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    Umkomaas said:
    JustAUser said:
    Umkomaas said:
    JustAUser said:
    Not at this stage.  SRA won't be interested. There is no breach of standards for demanding what their client wants to demand.  

    However, do respond with the usual reply about the DLUHC's new Code banning fake debt recovery 'costs' and state that if a claim is issued with those enhanced/fake costs added, knowing they are banned and branded 'extortion' by the Govt, it will show a lack of good faith and honesty from them and their client.
    Thank you for your quick reply. 

    You say respond, do you mean respond to the solicitors? Or is this something I would add to the defence (when they eventually take me to court as it seems like)?
    Hit the solicitors with it now  You might be able to head them off (even if it's just on the added costs).  You will have set your stall out early and should they continue with the added costs element to the claim you can refer to your correspondence in any subsequent court papers.  By ignoring your response, you could argue, indicates an unreasonableness on their part. 
    Thank you for this. I will see if I could draft up something. 
    You might want to add a little bit to that, using the draft produced on @jabfish's thread. 

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6309928/breach-of-kadoe-complaint-to-dvla#latest
    Thank you for this much appreciated. 

    I am curious, the poster in that thread had a 30 day reply form and an Annex 1 Information Sheet with the Solicitors letter. I did not get these documents and I only have 14 days or I get a CCP. 

    Is this normal? 

    Will type up the email when I am back home
  • Le_Kirk
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    If it is 14 days it is normally indicative of debt collector.  What is a CCP?
  • JustAUser
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    Le_Kirk said:
    If it is 14 days it is normally indicative of debt collector.  What is a CCP?
    Strange. This letter is from the solicitors. I have not been given 30 days, just 14. 

     CCP= County Court Proceedings :) 
  • Le_Kirk
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    Who are the solicitors?
  • JustAUser
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    Le_Kirk said:
    Who are the solicitors?
    QDR Solicitors 
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