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  • Redx
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    Greenhaze said:
    Le_Kirk said:
    See the witness statements by @Nosy and @jrhys
    I had a look through @jrhys thread I couldn't see anything regarding cost, should this be a separate document or can it be in the body the WS at the end? 
    It's usually an exhibit , summary costs assessment , so not normally in the body of the document
  • Le_Kirk
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    edited 7 February 2022 at 3:59PM
    Greenhaze said:
    Le_Kirk said:
    See the witness statements by @Nosy and @jrhys
    I had a look through @jrhys thread I couldn't see anything regarding cost, should this be a separate document or can it be in the body the WS at the end? 
    In the @Nosy thread it is a schedule of costs towards the end.  In the @jrhys thread it is identified in the contents as being on page AL

  • Thank you parking mad just what I needed to see so I can get an understanding of how it should be presented. 

    I have completed my skeleton argument, is ok to hand this into the court now with my bundle or send it via email once I exchanged mine with the claimant solicitors closer to the hearing? 

    Also how does this exchange take place, what I mean is how do I assure I get their skely? 
  • Redx
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    What makes you believe that the Claimant will draft and submit a skeleton statement or summary ? I don't

  • I don't have any indication and agree with you on your thoughts, but wanted to know the process. I'd rather just hand it into the court now so it's all together as it bullet points all the facts I need to raise, but just wanted the opinion of those in the know. 
  • Redx
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    edited 7 February 2022 at 4:37PM
    Greenhaze said:
    I don't have any indication and agree with you on your thoughts, but wanted to know the process. I'd rather just hand it into the court now so it's all together as it bullet points all the facts I need to raise, but just wanted the opinion of those in the know. 
    Ok , then you should have said that instead

    If a skelly is submitted to both other parties , in good time , no problem , but it's not really part of the process and not on the court directions , so do so if you wish , expect nothing in return , or a counter statement , their choice , optional on both sides

    The CPR s are the processes , plus directions by the court ( it takes lawyers years in a training contract plus various courses etc to learn these )



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    edited 8 February 2022 at 12:14PM
    You have read the news and bargepole's new thread yesterday?

    I'd be surprised that any Defendant needs us to point out the obvious!   But I have been pointing this out to a few:  you need to pick up on and quote that the statutory Code of Practice coming in (published 7.2.2022 as part of the already enacted 2019 Act) has ended any possible debate about false 'debt recovery costs'.  The Government has banned them.

    The DLUHC explain this in their Response to Technical Consultation and in the Explanation about the new Code, which whilst not retrospective, sends a clear steer to the Courts about adding unproven chunks of money that were never incurred or paid to any third party.
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  • Redx
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    And Bargepole posted his proposed paragraph in another thread this morning , so use it
  • I already filled with the court this morning in person and via email. I'm assuming it's to late to add this now or can I add a supplementary Skelly prior to the court date?  
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