Tiling Job - Tiles not straight

Jeepers_Creepers

Doozergirl said:

I'm innocent.   I thought this was over ages ago.  😂

You know, when you were nice to me and then I tried to lighten the atmosphere by slagging off my own husband? 

It only worked for a bit.  

You should have seen how dark it could have gone... :-)

Slag away.

(Oops, let me rewrite that...)

NSG666

Doozergirl said:

NSG666 said:

Doozergirl said:

Jeepers_Creepers said:

Rosa_Damascena said:

Enough! How about we give Jeeps a break?

This thread reminds me of the good old days, when you could have a heated debate with a stranger in a pub. Ever so 2019 I know

Lol! Thanks, but I don't need a break. It's not as tho' he doesn't have form - it's become a bit of a habit on a few threads now.

It takes two to tango...

Not you again! 

I'm innocent.   I thought this was over ages ago.  😂

You know, when you were nice to me and then I tried to lighten the atmosphere by slagging off my own husband? 

It only worked for a bit.  

Thank you for editing your post with this. In fairness when I saw your post about your husband I thought you had blanked me and fortunately I didn't post my reply along the lines of him making a feature of you under the patio 😂 - I told you I was sensitive! Phew! Enjoy the rest of the weekend.

Doozergirl

NSG666 said:

Doozergirl said:

NSG666 said:

Doozergirl said:

Jeepers_Creepers said:

Rosa_Damascena said:

Enough! How about we give Jeeps a break?

This thread reminds me of the good old days, when you could have a heated debate with a stranger in a pub. Ever so 2019 I know

Lol! Thanks, but I don't need a break. It's not as tho' he doesn't have form - it's become a bit of a habit on a few threads now.

It takes two to tango...

Not you again! 

I'm innocent.   I thought this was over ages ago.  😂

You know, when you were nice to me and then I tried to lighten the atmosphere by slagging off my own husband? 

It only worked for a bit.  

Thank you for editing your post with this. In fairness when I saw your post about your husband I thought you had blanked me and fortunately I didn't post my reply along the lines of him making a feature of you under the patio 😂 - I told you I was sensitive! Phew! Enjoy the rest of the weekend.

 I thanked you, but I forgot you can't see who thanked you anymore.  

robatwork

What an entertaining thread this has been, a peak episode of "In My Home" soap opera, albeit more Crossroads than Dynasty.

I just hope the OP keeps us informed on his errant tiling and S62 & J_C organise a charity MMA caged slugfest.

"Miss Diane....Oi think oi mislaid moi laser measure"

Jeepers_Creepers

robatwork said:

What an entertaining thread this has been, a peak episode of "In My Home" soap opera, albeit more Crossroads than Dynasty.

I just hope the OP keeps us informed on his errant tiling and S62 & J_C organise a charity MMA caged slugfest.

"Miss Diane....Oi think oi mislaid moi laser measure"

Very droll :-)

Now, since you are here, do you think the tiler has...

Rosa_Damascena

robatwork said:

What an entertaining thread this has been, a peak episode of "In My Home" soap opera, albeit more Crossroads than Dynasty.

I just hope the OP keeps us informed on his errant tiling and S62 & J_C organise a charity MMA caged slugfest.

"Miss Diane....Oi think oi mislaid moi laser measure"

More DT than IMH I thought.

Jack_Bauer

Hi everyone,

Thank you for your input. It's very much appreciated. That being said, I'm still unsure as to the next steps.

The tiler has certainly made a mistake and still refuses to accept liability as he claims the job has been done to a good enough standard. He also doesn't seem able to clearly explain what the reference point was with regards to lining it all up.

I've asked for the work to be redone. So far all he's said is "I don't have cover for someone wanting it done differently after it's been laid". I've invited him over for me to explain to him how it's deviated and for him to explain what his reference point is. So far no response.

The tiler claims it is my responsibility to have told him to have laid it differently than what has been done, even though he never had that conversation with me and I thought it blindingly obvious that the tiles should line up to the kitchen units so it doesn't look wonky.

Waiting for him to response but in the meantime, i'm wondering if I can get in trouble for refusing the rest of the payment.

travis-powers

Not at the moment you are in dispute, and yes you’re right it’s is obvious with an entry doorway and units you would run parallel, if the floor was to run out at the return units and bay window then so be it, a square parallel room is rear indeed so a compromise is needed.
 If you can get him to come round that would be good when faced with a mistake it’s hard to talk your way out of it.
I think he set out wrong and just carried on when he should have stopped and started again.

Section62

Jack_Bauer said:

The tiler claims it is my responsibility to have told him to have laid it differently than what has been done, even though he never had that conversation with me and I thought it blindingly obvious that the tiles should line up to the kitchen units so it doesn't look wonky.

Waiting for him to response but in the meantime, i'm wondering if I can get in trouble for refusing the rest of the payment.

Jack, could you confirm whether the tiler is the same one that started the job back in February, and if so, whether the outstanding payment relates only to laying the new tiles, or if you still owe money for the work he did lifting the old floor.

In my view that is going to make a difference in how a court would treat any claim and/or counter-claim if things go that far.

You won't "get in trouble" as such, but the tiler could go down the legal route to try and get payment, just as you might decide to try to claim money from him for the cost of getting someone else to redo the work.  If you were ordered to make a payment and refused to do so, that is when things could possibly get more serious.

The other thing that it is only right to point out is that good traders often talk to each other about people they (rightly or wrongly) consider to be 'bad' customers.  If you have other work you want doing in future it would be a good idea to have a think about how non-payment for this job might impact on your ability to get good traders to do work for you when you need it.  I'm not saying that means you must pay for poor quality work you aren't happy with, but like a lot in life it is necessary to think about the bigger picture.

Rosa_Damascena

Section62 said:

Jack_Bauer said:

The tiler claims it is my responsibility to have told him to have laid it differently than what has been done, even though he never had that conversation with me and I thought it blindingly obvious that the tiles should line up to the kitchen units so it doesn't look wonky.

Waiting for him to response but in the meantime, i'm wondering if I can get in trouble for refusing the rest of the payment.

Jack, could you confirm whether the tiler is the same one that started the job back in February, and if so, whether the outstanding payment relates only to laying the new tiles, or if you still owe money for the work he did lifting the old floor.

In my view that is going to make a difference in how a court would treat any claim and/or counter-claim if things go that far.

You won't "get in trouble" as such, but the tiler could go down the legal route to try and get payment, just as you might decide to try to claim money from him for the cost of getting someone else to redo the work.  If you were ordered to make a payment and refused to do so, that is when things could possibly get more serious.

The other thing that it is only right to point out is that good traders often talk to each other about people they (rightly or wrongly) consider to be 'bad' customers.  If you have other work you want doing in future it would be a good idea to have a think about how non-payment for this job might impact on your ability to get good traders to do work for you when you need it.  I'm not saying that means you must pay for poor quality work you aren't happy with, but like a lot in life it is necessary to think about the bigger picture.

I see the other side of the story, who wants to hire this tiler after seeing his quality of work. No pride has been taken in it whatsoever (she says as the happy owner of 40 sqm of newly-tiled floor).