GLUCOSAMINE. Save £60 a Year

theloft

loulou41 wrote: »

Oops, it's a typo mistake, I meant to say 30 tablets a month not a day.

What size are the tablets ? If they are lass than 1500mg then he is wasting his time. If they are smalller top them up to a minimum of 1500.

theloft

mattee77 wrote: »

Wilkinsons sells glucosamine really cheap

http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/bin/venda?ex=co_wizr-locayta&template=wz_locayta&pageno=1&perpage=10&collate=cat%3Apdxttype&fieldrtype=type&termtextrtype=invt&typertype=exact&typekeywordsearch=keyword&termtextkeywordsearch=glucosamine

You have to compare like with like. These are not that cheap! check prices of Healthspan, ZipVit, Simply Supplements & Healthy Direct. All are P & P free.

missile

A liver expert wants the public to be warned about the potential dangers of over-the-counter herbal remedies. Maybe worth a look here> http://www.thisisnorthscotland.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=149212&command=displayContent&sourceNode=246582&home=yes&contentPK=20053529

Ted_Hutchinson

missile wrote: »

A liver expert wants the public to be warned about the potential dangers of over-the-counter herbal remedies. Maybe worth a look here> http://www.thisisnorthscotland.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=149212&command=displayContent&sourceNode=246582&home=yes&contentPK=20053529

I should point out that this particular individual was taking more than the suggested daily amount.

Even so it compares very favourably with the Medical error death risk of 1 in 300 The article quote 5000 deaths from Hostpital Acquired infections but I read somewhere that uk Iatropic deaths were more like 20,000 yearly so the odd death from supplements just shows how safe they are.

This study on the Sulphate/hydrochloride issue is interesting.
Following oral administration of a clinically recommended dose of glucosamine sulphate, significantly higher synovial fluid concentrations of glucosamine are attained, when compared to an equivalent dose of glucosamine hydrochloride. Whether this difference is translated into a therapeutic effect on the joint tissues remains to be elucidated.

I have highlighted the last sentence because although previously it was thought that overall (given the safety of Glucosamine) it was probably worth taking it even though the benefits over placebo were marginal
this Research Glucosamine sulfate in osteoarthritis: the jury is still out. argues that it really is extremely doubtful that it has a worthwhile benefit (other than as placebo) although it may be, as this was only looking at osteo, there remains the "hope" that it works for other varieties of arthritis.
The article concludes
What lessons have we learned? First, as exemplified by the differences between hip and knee osteoarthritis, osteoarthritis is heterogeneous—the symptoms, role of inflammation, and response to therapy depend on the affected joint groups. Second, clinical trials are still difficult to conduct in osteoarthritis because of its heterogeneity and chronicity and our inadequate tools for measuring outcomes—we need better biomarkers and imaging tests and more guidance from in vivo animal studies. Finally, despite many clinical trials and patients' wide use of glucosamine, its place in the treatment of osteoarthritis is still being debated.

Of course there are a couple of other natural anti-inflammatory agents that most people in the UK are generally deficient in and which may have a role in arthritis pain. I wonder who can guess what they may be?

Do think twice about getting it on prescription.
Is glucosamine prescribable under the NHS for a patient with osteoarthritis of the knee?
this concludes Based on epact.net data, the average cost per prescription of glucosamine sulphate is £9.70. Glucosamine sulphate is available to purchase “over the counter” and by mail order. Mail order costs are in the range of £16 - £24 for a year’s supply (based on 1,500mg per day).”

Now I know it's not your fault the NHS is being ripped off by Big Pharma who makes them pay over the odds but if Simply Supplements can provide 360 x1500mg for £13.99 it's unfair to make the NHS pay £116.40

feclmum

dont know if anyone else has said but glucosamine can higher your blood pressure

Ted_Hutchinson

feclmum wrote: »

dont know if anyone else has said but glucosamine can higher your blood pressure

Can glucosamine cause high blood pressure?
Answer:We found no published evidence of the effect of glucosamine on blood pressure

phoebe03cat

Hi, have just read this thread and am looking at this from zipfit. They have buy 3 bottles, get fourth free at the moment. I've read that 1500mg is the recommended amount for glucosamine, but not sure about the chondroitin. In fact not really sure if its essential to take as well. Quite fancy taking this in liquid form for a bit.

Joint Genie Glucosamine and Chondroitin Liquid - Mixed Fruit - Introduced due to huge customer demand. One 20mg dosage gives 1500mg of Glucosamine combined with 1200mg Chondroitin giving you the ideal daily dosage in one serving. - 360ml - 18 days supply

Ted_Hutchinson

[quote=phoebe03cat;9936483 I've read that 1500mg is the recommended amount for glucosamine, but not sure about the chondroitin. In fact not really sure if its essential to take as well. Quite fancy taking this in liquid form for a bit.[/quote]To be honest no one can decide for you.
It is certainly true that Glucosamine is as good as a placebo but whether or not it is better than placebo remains to be fully confirmed.
The same applies to chondroitin except there is slightly less evidence that it may be as good or better than placebo.

I don't take either myself, (wrong kind of pain) but my partner does. I have shown her research proving it is better than placebo and evidence it is only as good as placebo.
She finds she has less pain when she take it.
She prefers the stuff with chondroitin. She thinks that suits her best.

That is not evidence it will suit you.

The only way you will know is to buy both and get your other half to remove the labels and call one bottle A and one bottle b.
Take A for 30 days
then take b for 30 days
record you pain levels on a daily basis.
Then report back here.
That will only show what suits you but if enough people did the same we may come to a conclusion.

phoebe03cat

Thanks for that. Glucosamine itself comes recomended by my rheumatoidologist and it certainly seems to make a difference to my pain.I had been stupidly buying it from Mr.T though so needed to do something about that. Have also read that its more effective in liquid form so wanted to try that without needing a mortgage. As for the chrondrotin will just have to give that a go as you say. I do suffer from raised blood pressure so would be grateful if peeps could post anything they come across which may link with the use of these supplements.(Can see no linksfound atm with the source on here):D

theloft

I receive treatment for high blood pressure and can honestly say that glucosamine (with and without chondroitin) has not made a scrap of difference. We search around for our supplies and almost always go back to Healthspan. (watch out for the money off codes in the Vouchers section and also Silver Savers). Althought the liquid form is easier to take, it is also more costly. I would doubt whether it is more effective.