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Ted_Hutchinson

With all the focus in this thread on Glucosamine, older, disabled, readers should not forget the continuing stream of research showing the Association Between Vitamin D Status and Physical Performance:is today's news and yesterdays was
Vitamin D Deficiency Associated with Weakness in Older Patients
both these show the main cause of disability in older people is underlying vitamin d insufficiency.

As I hoped my reminder not to forget the role of Vitamin d in chronic pain would not take this thread off topic I'll comment on post 214 here. New readers should be aware your body uses between 3000iu & 5000iu D3 daily Ideally of course this should come entirely free from sunshine, 20-40 minutes full body horizontal exposure around midday when the ratio of UVB<>UVA is at it's most beneficial. A daily intake of between 50µg 2000iu and 100µg 4000iu daily vitamin D is the most effective way to improve vitamin D status and is known to help congestive heart failure but we have to remember that sunlight on skin, in generating Vitamin d from squalene, is preventing squalene metabolism from progressing to cholesterol synthesis. Thus we have lower cholesterol in the summer and increased concentration of blood cholesterol during the winter months when there is less UVB in sunlight.
Providing you don't cover your skin with sunblock getting gardening outside in the summer sunshine not only raises vitamin d status, with it's beneficial impact on your feelings of wellbeing and cancer risk but also reduces your cholesterol.
This Risk Assessment for Vitamin d 3 should allay any fears about the overhyped dangers of Vit D3

Readers should also be aware that using a much lower than optimal level as the basis for determining insufficient vitamin d status it was found 9 out of 10 UK adults were vit d insufficient in Winter and 60% in Summer had they used 100nmol/L (the level at which the ratio Vit d and its metabolic product-25(OH)D(3) becomes stable) the result would have been even worse. Optimal status is 125nmol/L.

Vitamin D casts cancer prevention in new light

Erikin_2

Maytaurus,

Really good food for thought.

Think we all approach decisions from different angles but would think a key aspect here is pain threshold. There comes point where, provided the risk is measured, you are willing to give it a go because of persistent pain. Suppose you need to experience pain to understand.

Although it’s not an issue with me, my wife is at a stage where she is willing to give glucosamine a go.

maytaurus

:wave: :idea:



This may be of interest
I think

combinations re glucosamine

are well worth l@@king into


CALCIUM
The National Academy of Sciences has established guidelines for calcium that are 25–50% higher than previous recommendations.
For ages 19 to 50, calcium intake is recommended to be 1,000 mg daily; for adults over age 51, the recommendation is 1,200 mg daily.

VITAMIN D
People who get plenty of sun exposure do not require supplemental vitamin D, since sunlight increases vitamin D synthesis when it strikes bare skin.
Although the recommended dietary allowance for vitamin D is 200 IU per day for adults,
there is some evidence that elderly people need 800 to 1,000 IU per day for maximum effects on preserving bone density and preventing fractures.
Sun-deprived people should take no less than 600 IU per day and ideally around 1,000 IU per day
Vitamin D increases both calcium and phosphorus absorption

VITAMIN D’S most important role is maintaining blood levels of calcium. Therefore, many doctors recommend that those supplementing with calcium also supplement with 400 IU of vitamin D per day

People with hyperparathyroidism should not take vitamin D without consulting a physician.
People with sarcoidosis should not supplement with vitamin D,
unless a doctor has determined that their calcium levels are not elevated.
An extra 800 mg of calcium and 400 to 800 IU of vitamin D a day can help protect the bones of people at any age
weight-bearing exercise will help to increase bone density
excessive salt intake and high-salt processed foods may contribute to calcium and bone loss

:idea: Personally I also take
Fish oil and Evening primrose oil (in combination)
Vit c
B complex
:j:j:j:j:j at least some of the time l-o-l

moneylover

A recent review of clinical trials has concluded that Chrondroitin is no better than a placebo for helping with arthritis pain. It makes interesting reading given that many people take combined glucosomine and chrondroitin.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/healthnews.php?newsid=67975&nfid=crss

Ted_Hutchinson

I can't say I'm surprised.
My other half tried the glucosamine/chondroitin mix and didn't feel it was better than glucosamine sulphate on it's own so she now sticks to the glucosamine sulphate 1500mg.

mjr600

You should check out Home Bargains for Glucosamine, my wife has just bought 12 boxes of 30 Seven Seas JointCare for £12. It is £1 a box and is not a misprice, her friend has bought a bucket full for her horse to see if helps its joints. As well as Glucosamine it has cod liver oil, chondroitin, vitamins and minerals.

superpacman1972

mjr600 wrote: »

You should check out Home Bargains for Glucosamine, my wife has just bought 12 boxes of 30 Seven Seas JointCare for £12. It is £1 a box and is not a misprice, her friend has bought a bucket full for her horse to see if helps its joints. As well as Glucosamine it has cod liver oil, chondroitin, vitamins and minerals.

The problem with these Jointcare tablets is that the dose level of Glucosamine on the boxes is far too low to be effective unless you're taking 4 a day (once you see the size of the tablets, bigger than Glucosamine tablets, taking 4 a day becomes a task in itself). Glucosamine levels are 250mg per tablet, compared to the most effective and largely recommended dosage of 1500mg.

I'd imagine if anyone was giving these to a horse, they would have to feed them to it by the bucket load to give an effective dose for equines.

Good for the cod liver oil and vitamins, but again chondroitin levels are also low.

Don't know how they get away with normally charging 12 quid a box for these, but for a quid suppose it's not a bad deal, but if you specifically need glucosamine, I would advise looking elsewhere for something more convenient and effective to take.

Madam_Arcati

If you have extensive arthritis or RA my rheumatologist recommends taking at least 2000-2500mg of Glucosamine per day.

Art_2

mjr600 wrote: »

You should check out Home Bargains for Glucosamine, my wife has just bought 12 boxes of 30 Seven Seas JointCare for £12. It is £1 a box and is not a misprice, her friend has bought a bucket full for her horse to see if helps its joints. As well as Glucosamine it has cod liver oil, chondroitin, vitamins and minerals.

There's no need to pay for Glucosamine. It can be obtained on the NHS with a prescription. My doctor has been prescribing it for me for about three years.

Regards,
Art.

oap

Yes our Doctor gives it on prescription to myself and my husband and as we are pensioners it does not cost us anything, he has the tablets I have the liquid. Regards oap