£7-£8k for Aircon system

danrv

Reed_Richards said:

danrv said:
 I’ve already ruled out an oil CH system but would hope there’ll always be cheap rate electricity for storage heaters.

I recommend you get some electricity price quotes before you commit.  Economy 7 will doubtless remain but it may have to be renamed "E 7" because most of the Economy will have been phased-out.

Have looked into a few:
Bulb E7:  L 8.937p  N 18.015p
OVO E7:  L 9.072p  N 17.640p 
Symbio:   L 13p  N 13p
Current rates with EON E10 are:  L 14.443p  N 22.63p  standing charge 28.62p 
Better off with single rate. 

What’s needed is a complete heating system change with a suitable, cheap tariff. Economy or single rate depending what I fit.
The EON bills aren’t too bad over the summer months obviously and it’s a good time to change.

Reed_Richards

Symbio will probably be the cheapest you can find for a single rate, although their reputation is terrible.  The range of prices, 13p to 22.63p (Normal=Day rate), is huge and will make a huge difference to your bill if you heat with electricity.

shinytop

danrv said:

Reed_Richards said:

danrv said:
 I’ve already ruled out an oil CH system but would hope there’ll always be cheap rate electricity for storage heaters.

I recommend you get some electricity price quotes before you commit.  Economy 7 will doubtless remain but it may have to be renamed "E 7" because most of the Economy will have been phased-out.

Have looked into a few:
Bulb E7:  L 8.937p  N 18.015p
OVO E7:  L 9.072p  N 17.640p 
Symbio:   L 13p  N 13p
Current rates with EON E10 are:  L 14.443p  N 22.63p  standing charge 28.62p 
Better off with single rate. 

What’s needed is a complete heating system change with a suitable, cheap tariff. Economy or single rate depending what I fit.
The EON bills aren’t too bad over the summer months obviously and it’s a good time to change.

If it helps, when we had storage heaters, we averaged about 80/20 L/N over the year. 

danrv

Swipe said:

danrv said:

Swipe said:

You'd probably need some back up heat source for the depths of winter unless you let them run all day then they are fine. 

Also was wondering about the high positioning of the indoor units.
Considering that I’m after a heating system, it would make sense for the units to be at floor level like radiators or storage heaters.

Mine are quite sophisticated with various settings on how to blow, also includes intelligent sensors that detect people's presence.

Would be interested to know make and model if ok.

Swipe

danrv said:

Swipe said:

danrv said:

Swipe said:

You'd probably need some back up heat source for the depths of winter unless you let them run all day then they are fine. 

Also was wondering about the high positioning of the indoor units.
Considering that I’m after a heating system, it would make sense for the units to be at floor level like radiators or storage heaters.

Mine are quite sophisticated with various settings on how to blow, also includes intelligent sensors that detect people's presence.

Would be interested to know make and model if ok.

Daikin heat pumps (over 10 years old now)

Indoor units: FTXS 35GV

Outdoor units: RX 35GV

http://www.daikintech.co.uk/Data/Split-Sky-Air-Indoor/FTX/2008/RX-GV1B/RX-GV1B_Databook.pdf

danrv

Swipe said:

danrv said:

Swipe said:

danrv said:

Swipe said:

You'd probably need some back up heat source for the depths of winter unless you let them run all day then they are fine. 

Also was wondering about the high positioning of the indoor units.
Considering that I’m after a heating system, it would make sense for the units to be at floor level like radiators or storage heaters.

Mine are quite sophisticated with various settings on how to blow, also includes intelligent sensors that detect people's presence.

Would be interested to know make and model if ok.

Daikin heat pumps (over 10 years old now)

Indoor units: FTXS 35GV

Outdoor units: RX 35GV

http://www.daikintech.co.uk/Data/Split-Sky-Air-Indoor/FTX/2008/RX-GV1B/RX-GV1B_Databook.pdf

That’s great, thanks,

danrv

mnbvcxz said:

A bit worrying what Swipe says. They mostly claim to be good to -15C or so, but clearly that was not his experience. 

Yes. It really wouldn’t be any use if it doesn’t deliver at the most important time. It’s the primary reason for buying the system. Might just be a case of running it longer when really cold.
Good idea to maybe install something for the main living areas to try it out but don’t want more than one outside compressor unit.

Maybe the heat pump could be upgraded for extra indoor units later. Not sure if this would be a problem for the initial installation.
I have cheap convector heaters for occasional bedroom use which would be used even if I go with Quantums on E7.
At least with HHR NSH’s, the input can be increased and they probably do it automatically.

Cardew

I often wonder if it is worthwhile spending £thousands extra to cope with a 'once a year' freezing spell - I am as guilty as most!

95% of the time a smaller heating system will cope, and when it doesn't, a £10 3kW fan heater will suffice.

Gerry1

Cardew said:

I often wonder if it is worthwhile spending £thousands extra to cope with a 'once a year' freezing spell - I am as guilty as most!

95% of the time a smaller heating system will cope, and when it doesn't, a £10 3kW fan heater will suffice.

Might deter a purchaser and/or reduce the selling price if their survey flags up a warning that your CH is inadequate for the size of your property.

matelodave

How many purchase surveys assess the heating requirements of the property and compare it with the capability of the heating system - answers on a post card please.

Likewise Energy Performance Certificates, they may try to assess the heating requirements but they dont actually specify whether the existing system is any good, it just gives it a star rating based on what fuel it uses.

TBH if people see a heating system of some sort they are fairly happy and I'd bet that, unless it's pointed out (or they trip over it), most people dont really take a lot of notice on what fuel it uses or how it works - that's what comes as a big surprise or shock after they've moved in.