Poor TV internet signal

Arsenal2019

Sooooo, in regards to me trying a WiFi extender / booster / adapter or whatever else there is. What do people think may be the best option for me with my WiFi router been downstairs. Preferably one that’s wireless 

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Arsenal2019 said:

Sooooo, in regards to me trying a WiFi extender / booster / adapter or whatever else there is. What do people think may be the best option for me with my WiFi router been downstairs. Preferably one that’s wireless 

They start at about £20 so depending on your budget, this might work but never used it.
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/networking/wifi-range-extenders/tp-link-re200-wifi-range-extender-ac-750-dual-band-10024654-pdt.html

This however at £60, this one below I have used and in fact I used with my Hisense until I ran an ethernet cable across the house. Even though it was installed in a socket in the same alcove hidden from the wifi as the TV, it work well. You can just run a short ethernet cable from it to the TV or alternatively connect the TV to its wifi repeater signal, either should work ok.

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/networking/wifi-range-extenders/tp-link-re450-wifi-range-extender-ac-1750-dual-band-10136364-pdt.html

getmore4less

 My WiFi router is one of the newer routers for talk talk. 

do you still have an old one?
You should be able to set that up to offer an ethernet connection near the TV

neilmcl

Arsenal2019 said:

Sooooo, in regards to me trying a WiFi extender / booster / adapter or whatever else there is. What do people think may be the best option for me with my WiFi router been downstairs. Preferably one that’s wireless 

What can you afford. Wifi extenders do a job but a Mesh system is better.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Deco-E4-Seamless-Replacement/dp/B07NWBPYBX/ref=sr_1_10

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Deco-E4-Seamless-Replacement/dp/B07RXLF5XZ/ref=sr_1_3

Arsenal2019

getmore4less said:

 My WiFi router is one of the newer routers for talk talk. 

do you still have an old one?
You should be able to set that up to offer an ethernet connection near the TV

Unfortunately I do  not still have the old one

Arsenal2019

neilmcl said:

Arsenal2019 said:

Sooooo, in regards to me trying a WiFi extender / booster / adapter or whatever else there is. What do people think may be the best option for me with my WiFi router been downstairs. Preferably one that’s wireless 

What can you afford. Wifi extenders do a job but a Mesh system is better.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Deco-E4-Seamless-Replacement/dp/B07NWBPYBX/ref=sr_1_10

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Deco-E4-Seamless-Replacement/dp/B07RXLF5XZ/ref=sr_1_3

with WiFi extenders, aren’t I right in thinking they go in the middle/between the router and my desired location (TV)... and am I right in thinking this may cause packet loss?- which would be horrendous for gaming?

therefore would WiFi boosters or power line adapters be better?

RumRat

No one asked yet who your internet provider is?
Some of them guarantee Wi-Fi reception BT, Virgin etc and have equipment/solutions if you are not getting good coverage.

[Deleted User]

Arsenal2019 said:

neilmcl said:

Arsenal2019 said:

Sooooo, in regards to me trying a WiFi extender / booster / adapter or whatever else there is. What do people think may be the best option for me with my WiFi router been downstairs. Preferably one that’s wireless 

What can you afford. Wifi extenders do a job but a Mesh system is better.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Deco-E4-Seamless-Replacement/dp/B07NWBPYBX/ref=sr_1_10

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Deco-E4-Seamless-Replacement/dp/B07RXLF5XZ/ref=sr_1_3

with WiFi extenders, aren’t I right in thinking they go in the middle/between the router and my desired location (TV)... and am I right in thinking this may cause packet loss?- which would be horrendous for gaming?

therefore would WiFi boosters or power line adapters be better?

Wifi extenders / booster / repeaters are all terms used to describe the same thing. They all act as a middle man between the main router and the device you are trying to connect - so the data will be sent to the wifi extender then forwarded on to the device. And vice versa, data from the device sent to the extender then forwarded on the to main router.

How they act as the middle man can vary:

• Typically they re-transmit the data on the same SSID / band and channel as the main router which means they add congestion to the wifi bandwidth so can sometimes cause performance (top speed) to drop but will improve the signal strength for the device that is connected.
• They can be re-configured to use a different band / channel to avoid the above.
• The can be configured with a different SSID to selectively connect devices.
• You can hard wire the wifi extender to the main router - this would typically be called a wifi access point.
• You can hard wire the extender to the device for example and this would be called a wifi bridge

Anyway, your point about packet loss, if you are concerned about that, please only use wired Ethernet which is the closest you will get to zero packet loss - I really do urge people to use Ethernet wires for gaming and non-mobile devices for best performance. They are also the cheapest solution, just takes a bit of thought to install but you will never regret it.

In terms of gaming - both Wifi and Powerline adaptors will add lag and ping times will increase - on my network, wired ethernet is 7ms ping and wifi is 11ms so not a massive difference but it is very high spec, but add a wifi extender and it will increase again.

Powerline is bottom of the list, whilst convenient, they are sending data along "dirty cables" full of noise and interference from household appliances and are most likely to cause packet loss and lag.

In summary order of preference:
Wired ethernet > wifi > wifi repeaters > powerline

neilmcl

[Deleted User] said:

Arsenal2019 said:

neilmcl said:

Arsenal2019 said:

Sooooo, in regards to me trying a WiFi extender / booster / adapter or whatever else there is. What do people think may be the best option for me with my WiFi router been downstairs. Preferably one that’s wireless 

What can you afford. Wifi extenders do a job but a Mesh system is better.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Deco-E4-Seamless-Replacement/dp/B07NWBPYBX/ref=sr_1_10

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Deco-E4-Seamless-Replacement/dp/B07RXLF5XZ/ref=sr_1_3

with WiFi extenders, aren’t I right in thinking they go in the middle/between the router and my desired location (TV)... and am I right in thinking this may cause packet loss?- which would be horrendous for gaming?

therefore would WiFi boosters or power line adapters be better?

Wifi extenders / booster / repeaters are all terms used to describe the same thing. They all act as a middle man between the main router and the device you are trying to connect - so the data will be sent to the wifi extender then forwarded on to the device. And vice versa, data from the device sent to the extender then forwarded on the to main router.

How they act as the middle man can vary:

• Typically they re-transmit the data on the same SSID / band and channel as the main router which means they add congestion to the wifi bandwidth so can sometimes cause performance (top speed) to drop but will improve the signal strength for the device that is connected.
• They can be re-configured to use a different band / channel to avoid the above.
• The can be configured with a different SSID to selectively connect devices.
• You can hard wire the wifi extender to the main router - this would typically be called a wifi access point.
• You can hard wire the extender to the device for example and this would be called a wifi bridge

Anyway, your point about packet loss, if you are concerned about that, please only use wired Ethernet which is the closest you will get to zero packet loss - I really do urge people to use Ethernet wires for gaming and non-mobile devices for best performance. They are also the cheapest solution, just takes a bit of thought to install but you will never regret it.

In terms of gaming - both Wifi and Powerline adaptors will add lag and ping times will increase - on my network, wired ethernet is 7ms ping and wifi is 11ms so not a massive difference but it is very high spec, but add a wifi extender and it will increase again.

Powerline is bottom of the list, whilst convenient, they are sending data along "dirty cables" full of noise and interference from household appliances and are most likely to cause packet loss and lag.

In summary order of preference:
Wired ethernet > wifi > wifi repeaters > powerline

A mesh system works very different to that of wifi extenders/boosters etc.

Arsenal2019

RumRat said:

No one asked yet who your internet provider is?
Some of them guarantee Wi-Fi reception BT, Virgin etc and have equipment/solutions if you are not getting good coverage.

I’m with talk talk. 

I have good internet connection all around my house, it’s just the internet connection to this TV upstairs. What makes it even harder to grasp is that my Xbox is underneath the TV upstairs, and that runs smoothly on the internet