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Hi,[Deleted User] said:
Something really interesting in that speed test results in that the download is less than the upload.Arsenal2019 said:Right. Well it’s quite clear, that this is awful. This is the speed my TV is getting and I ran the test three times- this is the best result I got.
Every other device in the house is getting speeds of no less than 55mbps (which is what I should be getting)
with this been said, what devices would everyone recommend I should go for?
To me that means the TV is not "hearing" the wifi broadcast from the router very well but the router can "hear" the TV broadcasting wifi ok - not sure what your max upload speed would top out as on other devices but guessing it is close to it.
Anyway - comes back to my first post on this matter, the TV simply cannot receive wifi signal strong enough to negotiate a high data rate because of a) inherent design of the TV wifi aerial b) location causes the Wifi signal to degrade when it gets to the TV.
Ping time is awful as well.
Personally I'd be going for the Wifi extender or powerline solution at this point.
However you could try to see if there is a better 2.4Ghz channel available - using a Wifi analyser to see what channels are being used - maybe a neighbour is using the same channel and it might perform better on a different one but do stick to channels 1,6 or 11 on 2.4 Ghz if you are experimenting.
Get a laptop near the TV and run a Wifi analyser such as Inssider or maybe one on an Android phone just to see if anybody else using the same channels?
So for example below - Channel 1 and 6 are being used by my neighbours so channel 11 is the clearest one on the 2.4 GHz band because although it is being used, the signals are quite weak. (VM-WIFI blue is me, the grey lines are my neighbours)
From memory, I think you’re right about my upload speed been the same as what it would be on a successfully connected WiFi device such as mobile, laptop.
I have run a speed test on my Xbox, which is directly under the TV and within a few CM to the wall. That has a download speed of 55mbps!I’m not sure on where the tv WiFi aerial would be on this TV. Perhaps it’s directly at the back but can’t find this info anywhere0 -
The aerial will almost certainly be on a the circuit board in the back of the TV, unfortunately not the best location but not much choice of location in TV's. Probably has ended up being shielded by other components / metal frame / screen due to it receiving wifi from underneath the TV rather than horizontally. Either way a design issue that probably affects a lot of TV's and not uncommon.Arsenal2019 said:
Hi,[Deleted User] said:
Something really interesting in that speed test results in that the download is less than the upload.Arsenal2019 said:Right. Well it’s quite clear, that this is awful. This is the speed my TV is getting and I ran the test three times- this is the best result I got.
Every other device in the house is getting speeds of no less than 55mbps (which is what I should be getting)
with this been said, what devices would everyone recommend I should go for?
To me that means the TV is not "hearing" the wifi broadcast from the router very well but the router can "hear" the TV broadcasting wifi ok - not sure what your max upload speed would top out as on other devices but guessing it is close to it.
Anyway - comes back to my first post on this matter, the TV simply cannot receive wifi signal strong enough to negotiate a high data rate because of a) inherent design of the TV wifi aerial b) location causes the Wifi signal to degrade when it gets to the TV.
Ping time is awful as well.
Personally I'd be going for the Wifi extender or powerline solution at this point.
However you could try to see if there is a better 2.4Ghz channel available - using a Wifi analyser to see what channels are being used - maybe a neighbour is using the same channel and it might perform better on a different one but do stick to channels 1,6 or 11 on 2.4 Ghz if you are experimenting.
Get a laptop near the TV and run a Wifi analyser such as Inssider or maybe one on an Android phone just to see if anybody else using the same channels?
So for example below - Channel 1 and 6 are being used by my neighbours so channel 11 is the clearest one on the 2.4 GHz band because although it is being used, the signals are quite weak. (VM-WIFI blue is me, the grey lines are my neighbours)
From memory, I think you’re right about my upload speed been the same as what it would be on a successfully connected WiFi device such as mobile, laptop.
I have run a speed test on my Xbox, which is directly under the TV and within a few CM to the wall. That has a download speed of 55mbps!I’m not sure on where the tv WiFi aerial would be on this TV. Perhaps it’s directly at the back but can’t find this info anywhere1 -
Yep. A very bad design indeed. Especially seen as tho most TV’s are now wall mounted. I’ll be getting a power line adapter either today or tomorrow. But I can’t decide on which of these two to get.Deleted_User said:
The aerial will almost certainly be on a the circuit board in the back of the TV, unfortunately not the best location but not much choice of location in TV's. Probably has ended up being shielded by other components / metal frame / screen due to it receiving wifi from underneath the TV rather than horizontally. Either way a design issue that probably affects a lot of TV's and not uncommon.Arsenal2019 said:
Hi,Deleted_User said:
Something really interesting in that speed test results in that the download is less than the upload.Arsenal2019 said:Right. Well it’s quite clear, that this is awful. This is the speed my TV is getting and I ran the test three times- this is the best result I got.
Every other device in the house is getting speeds of no less than 55mbps (which is what I should be getting)
with this been said, what devices would everyone recommend I should go for?
To me that means the TV is not "hearing" the wifi broadcast from the router very well but the router can "hear" the TV broadcasting wifi ok - not sure what your max upload speed would top out as on other devices but guessing it is close to it.
Anyway - comes back to my first post on this matter, the TV simply cannot receive wifi signal strong enough to negotiate a high data rate because of a) inherent design of the TV wifi aerial b) location causes the Wifi signal to degrade when it gets to the TV.
Ping time is awful as well.
Personally I'd be going for the Wifi extender or powerline solution at this point.
However you could try to see if there is a better 2.4Ghz channel available - using a Wifi analyser to see what channels are being used - maybe a neighbour is using the same channel and it might perform better on a different one but do stick to channels 1,6 or 11 on 2.4 Ghz if you are experimenting.
Get a laptop near the TV and run a Wifi analyser such as Inssider or maybe one on an Android phone just to see if anybody else using the same channels?
So for example below - Channel 1 and 6 are being used by my neighbours so channel 11 is the clearest one on the 2.4 GHz band because although it is being used, the signals are quite weak. (VM-WIFI blue is me, the grey lines are my neighbours)
From memory, I think you’re right about my upload speed been the same as what it would be on a successfully connected WiFi device such as mobile, laptop.
I have run a speed test on my Xbox, which is directly under the TV and within a few CM to the wall. That has a download speed of 55mbps!I’m not sure on where the tv WiFi aerial would be on this TV. Perhaps it’s directly at the back but can’t find this info anywhere0 -
Have we not been doing this throughout this thread!Arsenal2019 said:
Right. Well it’s quite clear, that this is awful. This is the speed my TV is getting and I ran the test three times- this is the best result I got.
Every other device in the house is getting speeds of no less than 55mbps (which is what I should be getting)
with this been said, what devices would everyone recommend I should go for?0 -
Neither. I'd get:Arsenal2019 said:
Yep. A very bad design indeed. Especially seen as tho most TV’s are now wall mounted. I’ll be getting a power line adapter either today or tomorrow. But I can’t decide on which of these two to get.Deleted_User said:
The aerial will almost certainly be on a the circuit board in the back of the TV, unfortunately not the best location but not much choice of location in TV's. Probably has ended up being shielded by other components / metal frame / screen due to it receiving wifi from underneath the TV rather than horizontally. Either way a design issue that probably affects a lot of TV's and not uncommon.Arsenal2019 said:
Hi,Deleted_User said:
Something really interesting in that speed test results in that the download is less than the upload.Arsenal2019 said:Right. Well it’s quite clear, that this is awful. This is the speed my TV is getting and I ran the test three times- this is the best result I got.
Every other device in the house is getting speeds of no less than 55mbps (which is what I should be getting)
with this been said, what devices would everyone recommend I should go for?
To me that means the TV is not "hearing" the wifi broadcast from the router very well but the router can "hear" the TV broadcasting wifi ok - not sure what your max upload speed would top out as on other devices but guessing it is close to it.
Anyway - comes back to my first post on this matter, the TV simply cannot receive wifi signal strong enough to negotiate a high data rate because of a) inherent design of the TV wifi aerial b) location causes the Wifi signal to degrade when it gets to the TV.
Ping time is awful as well.
Personally I'd be going for the Wifi extender or powerline solution at this point.
However you could try to see if there is a better 2.4Ghz channel available - using a Wifi analyser to see what channels are being used - maybe a neighbour is using the same channel and it might perform better on a different one but do stick to channels 1,6 or 11 on 2.4 Ghz if you are experimenting.
Get a laptop near the TV and run a Wifi analyser such as Inssider or maybe one on an Android phone just to see if anybody else using the same channels?
So for example below - Channel 1 and 6 are being used by my neighbours so channel 11 is the clearest one on the 2.4 GHz band because although it is being used, the signals are quite weak. (VM-WIFI blue is me, the grey lines are my neighbours)
From memory, I think you’re right about my upload speed been the same as what it would be on a successfully connected WiFi device such as mobile, laptop.
I have run a speed test on my Xbox, which is directly under the TV and within a few CM to the wall. That has a download speed of 55mbps!I’m not sure on where the tv WiFi aerial would be on this TV. Perhaps it’s directly at the back but can’t find this info anywhere
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-PA4010PKIT-Passthrough-Powerline-Configuration-Required/dp/B07G37DJ8R/ref=sr_1_4
or if you want to keep the socket available:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-PA4010PKIT-Passthrough-Powerline-Configuration-Required/dp/B089DKK2K7/ref=sr_1_4
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Gotcha! Out of interest, what’s the difference between the ones I sent the and two you have sent? Apart from the obvious of that one of yours has a plug socket thing on it? And of course the priceneilmcl said:
Neither. I'd get:Arsenal2019 said:
Yep. A very bad design indeed. Especially seen as tho most TV’s are now wall mounted. I’ll be getting a power line adapter either today or tomorrow. But I can’t decide on which of these two to get.Deleted_User said:
The aerial will almost certainly be on a the circuit board in the back of the TV, unfortunately not the best location but not much choice of location in TV's. Probably has ended up being shielded by other components / metal frame / screen due to it receiving wifi from underneath the TV rather than horizontally. Either way a design issue that probably affects a lot of TV's and not uncommon.Arsenal2019 said:
Hi,Deleted_User said:
Something really interesting in that speed test results in that the download is less than the upload.Arsenal2019 said:Right. Well it’s quite clear, that this is awful. This is the speed my TV is getting and I ran the test three times- this is the best result I got.
Every other device in the house is getting speeds of no less than 55mbps (which is what I should be getting)
with this been said, what devices would everyone recommend I should go for?
To me that means the TV is not "hearing" the wifi broadcast from the router very well but the router can "hear" the TV broadcasting wifi ok - not sure what your max upload speed would top out as on other devices but guessing it is close to it.
Anyway - comes back to my first post on this matter, the TV simply cannot receive wifi signal strong enough to negotiate a high data rate because of a) inherent design of the TV wifi aerial b) location causes the Wifi signal to degrade when it gets to the TV.
Ping time is awful as well.
Personally I'd be going for the Wifi extender or powerline solution at this point.
However you could try to see if there is a better 2.4Ghz channel available - using a Wifi analyser to see what channels are being used - maybe a neighbour is using the same channel and it might perform better on a different one but do stick to channels 1,6 or 11 on 2.4 Ghz if you are experimenting.
Get a laptop near the TV and run a Wifi analyser such as Inssider or maybe one on an Android phone just to see if anybody else using the same channels?
So for example below - Channel 1 and 6 are being used by my neighbours so channel 11 is the clearest one on the 2.4 GHz band because although it is being used, the signals are quite weak. (VM-WIFI blue is me, the grey lines are my neighbours)
From memory, I think you’re right about my upload speed been the same as what it would be on a successfully connected WiFi device such as mobile, laptop.
I have run a speed test on my Xbox, which is directly under the TV and within a few CM to the wall. That has a download speed of 55mbps!I’m not sure on where the tv WiFi aerial would be on this TV. Perhaps it’s directly at the back but can’t find this info anywhere
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-PA4010PKIT-Passthrough-Powerline-Configuration-Required/dp/B07G37DJ8R/ref=sr_1_4
or if you want to keep the socket available:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-PA4010PKIT-Passthrough-Powerline-Configuration-Required/dp/B089DKK2K7/ref=sr_1_40 -
Higher speeds, gigabit adapters as opposed to the 600Mps ones you linked. May not make a huge difference but if you're going to be streaming 4K I'd go for the faster speed plugs.Arsenal2019 said:
Gotcha! Out of interest, what’s the difference between the ones I sent the and two you have sent? Apart from the obvious of that one of yours has a plug socket thing on it? And of course the priceneilmcl said:
Neither. I'd get:Arsenal2019 said:
Yep. A very bad design indeed. Especially seen as tho most TV’s are now wall mounted. I’ll be getting a power line adapter either today or tomorrow. But I can’t decide on which of these two to get.Deleted_User said:
The aerial will almost certainly be on a the circuit board in the back of the TV, unfortunately not the best location but not much choice of location in TV's. Probably has ended up being shielded by other components / metal frame / screen due to it receiving wifi from underneath the TV rather than horizontally. Either way a design issue that probably affects a lot of TV's and not uncommon.Arsenal2019 said:
Hi,Deleted_User said:
Something really interesting in that speed test results in that the download is less than the upload.Arsenal2019 said:Right. Well it’s quite clear, that this is awful. This is the speed my TV is getting and I ran the test three times- this is the best result I got.
Every other device in the house is getting speeds of no less than 55mbps (which is what I should be getting)
with this been said, what devices would everyone recommend I should go for?
To me that means the TV is not "hearing" the wifi broadcast from the router very well but the router can "hear" the TV broadcasting wifi ok - not sure what your max upload speed would top out as on other devices but guessing it is close to it.
Anyway - comes back to my first post on this matter, the TV simply cannot receive wifi signal strong enough to negotiate a high data rate because of a) inherent design of the TV wifi aerial b) location causes the Wifi signal to degrade when it gets to the TV.
Ping time is awful as well.
Personally I'd be going for the Wifi extender or powerline solution at this point.
However you could try to see if there is a better 2.4Ghz channel available - using a Wifi analyser to see what channels are being used - maybe a neighbour is using the same channel and it might perform better on a different one but do stick to channels 1,6 or 11 on 2.4 Ghz if you are experimenting.
Get a laptop near the TV and run a Wifi analyser such as Inssider or maybe one on an Android phone just to see if anybody else using the same channels?
So for example below - Channel 1 and 6 are being used by my neighbours so channel 11 is the clearest one on the 2.4 GHz band because although it is being used, the signals are quite weak. (VM-WIFI blue is me, the grey lines are my neighbours)
From memory, I think you’re right about my upload speed been the same as what it would be on a successfully connected WiFi device such as mobile, laptop.
I have run a speed test on my Xbox, which is directly under the TV and within a few CM to the wall. That has a download speed of 55mbps!I’m not sure on where the tv WiFi aerial would be on this TV. Perhaps it’s directly at the back but can’t find this info anywhere
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-PA4010PKIT-Passthrough-Powerline-Configuration-Required/dp/B07G37DJ8R/ref=sr_1_4
or if you want to keep the socket available:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-PA4010PKIT-Passthrough-Powerline-Configuration-Required/dp/B089DKK2K7/ref=sr_1_41 -
Okay. That makes sense. Although would they make a difference for me, even tho I don’t get my higher speed than 80mbps?neilmcl said:
Higher speeds, gigabit adapters as opposed to the 600Mps ones you linked. May not make a huge difference but if you're going to be streaming 4K I'd go for the faster speed plugs.Arsenal2019 said:
Gotcha! Out of interest, what’s the difference between the ones I sent the and two you have sent? Apart from the obvious of that one of yours has a plug socket thing on it? And of course the priceneilmcl said:
Neither. I'd get:Arsenal2019 said:
Yep. A very bad design indeed. Especially seen as tho most TV’s are now wall mounted. I’ll be getting a power line adapter either today or tomorrow. But I can’t decide on which of these two to get.Deleted_User said:
The aerial will almost certainly be on a the circuit board in the back of the TV, unfortunately not the best location but not much choice of location in TV's. Probably has ended up being shielded by other components / metal frame / screen due to it receiving wifi from underneath the TV rather than horizontally. Either way a design issue that probably affects a lot of TV's and not uncommon.Arsenal2019 said:
Hi,Deleted_User said:
Something really interesting in that speed test results in that the download is less than the upload.Arsenal2019 said:Right. Well it’s quite clear, that this is awful. This is the speed my TV is getting and I ran the test three times- this is the best result I got.
Every other device in the house is getting speeds of no less than 55mbps (which is what I should be getting)
with this been said, what devices would everyone recommend I should go for?
To me that means the TV is not "hearing" the wifi broadcast from the router very well but the router can "hear" the TV broadcasting wifi ok - not sure what your max upload speed would top out as on other devices but guessing it is close to it.
Anyway - comes back to my first post on this matter, the TV simply cannot receive wifi signal strong enough to negotiate a high data rate because of a) inherent design of the TV wifi aerial b) location causes the Wifi signal to degrade when it gets to the TV.
Ping time is awful as well.
Personally I'd be going for the Wifi extender or powerline solution at this point.
However you could try to see if there is a better 2.4Ghz channel available - using a Wifi analyser to see what channels are being used - maybe a neighbour is using the same channel and it might perform better on a different one but do stick to channels 1,6 or 11 on 2.4 Ghz if you are experimenting.
Get a laptop near the TV and run a Wifi analyser such as Inssider or maybe one on an Android phone just to see if anybody else using the same channels?
So for example below - Channel 1 and 6 are being used by my neighbours so channel 11 is the clearest one on the 2.4 GHz band because although it is being used, the signals are quite weak. (VM-WIFI blue is me, the grey lines are my neighbours)
From memory, I think you’re right about my upload speed been the same as what it would be on a successfully connected WiFi device such as mobile, laptop.
I have run a speed test on my Xbox, which is directly under the TV and within a few CM to the wall. That has a download speed of 55mbps!I’m not sure on where the tv WiFi aerial would be on this TV. Perhaps it’s directly at the back but can’t find this info anywhere
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-PA4010PKIT-Passthrough-Powerline-Configuration-Required/dp/B07G37DJ8R/ref=sr_1_4
or if you want to keep the socket available:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-PA4010PKIT-Passthrough-Powerline-Configuration-Required/dp/B089DKK2K7/ref=sr_1_4
however, I do like the idea of having the power line as an adapter as I am short for plug sockets0 -
It's not about your internet speed but more to do with bandwidth.Arsenal2019 said:
Okay. That makes sense. Although would they make a difference for me, even tho I don’t get my higher speed than 80mbps?neilmcl said:
Higher speeds, gigabit adapters as opposed to the 600Mps ones you linked. May not make a huge difference but if you're going to be streaming 4K I'd go for the faster speed plugs.Arsenal2019 said:
Gotcha! Out of interest, what’s the difference between the ones I sent the and two you have sent? Apart from the obvious of that one of yours has a plug socket thing on it? And of course the priceneilmcl said:
Neither. I'd get:Arsenal2019 said:
Yep. A very bad design indeed. Especially seen as tho most TV’s are now wall mounted. I’ll be getting a power line adapter either today or tomorrow. But I can’t decide on which of these two to get.Deleted_User said:
The aerial will almost certainly be on a the circuit board in the back of the TV, unfortunately not the best location but not much choice of location in TV's. Probably has ended up being shielded by other components / metal frame / screen due to it receiving wifi from underneath the TV rather than horizontally. Either way a design issue that probably affects a lot of TV's and not uncommon.Arsenal2019 said:
Hi,Deleted_User said:
Something really interesting in that speed test results in that the download is less than the upload.Arsenal2019 said:Right. Well it’s quite clear, that this is awful. This is the speed my TV is getting and I ran the test three times- this is the best result I got.
Every other device in the house is getting speeds of no less than 55mbps (which is what I should be getting)
with this been said, what devices would everyone recommend I should go for?
To me that means the TV is not "hearing" the wifi broadcast from the router very well but the router can "hear" the TV broadcasting wifi ok - not sure what your max upload speed would top out as on other devices but guessing it is close to it.
Anyway - comes back to my first post on this matter, the TV simply cannot receive wifi signal strong enough to negotiate a high data rate because of a) inherent design of the TV wifi aerial b) location causes the Wifi signal to degrade when it gets to the TV.
Ping time is awful as well.
Personally I'd be going for the Wifi extender or powerline solution at this point.
However you could try to see if there is a better 2.4Ghz channel available - using a Wifi analyser to see what channels are being used - maybe a neighbour is using the same channel and it might perform better on a different one but do stick to channels 1,6 or 11 on 2.4 Ghz if you are experimenting.
Get a laptop near the TV and run a Wifi analyser such as Inssider or maybe one on an Android phone just to see if anybody else using the same channels?
So for example below - Channel 1 and 6 are being used by my neighbours so channel 11 is the clearest one on the 2.4 GHz band because although it is being used, the signals are quite weak. (VM-WIFI blue is me, the grey lines are my neighbours)
From memory, I think you’re right about my upload speed been the same as what it would be on a successfully connected WiFi device such as mobile, laptop.
I have run a speed test on my Xbox, which is directly under the TV and within a few CM to the wall. That has a download speed of 55mbps!I’m not sure on where the tv WiFi aerial would be on this TV. Perhaps it’s directly at the back but can’t find this info anywhere
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-PA4010PKIT-Passthrough-Powerline-Configuration-Required/dp/B07G37DJ8R/ref=sr_1_4
or if you want to keep the socket available:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-PA4010PKIT-Passthrough-Powerline-Configuration-Required/dp/B089DKK2K7/ref=sr_1_4
however, I do like the idea of having the power line as an adapter as I am short for plug sockets1 -
Have you considered there a possible fault on the tv wifi,talk to Hisense support see what they say.
https://internet-access-guide.com/hisense-smart-tv-slow-internet/
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