MSE News: 'Green list' of quarantine-free holiday destinations set to be revealed

lisyloo

CKhalvashi said:

This may get stickier than this still.

Albania is one that has stuck out to me as not having travel to it advised against by the FCO, but where government advice is a mandatory 10 day isolation.

I’m curious as to what you are referring to. The FCO page on Albania says holidays are illegal. We’re you referring to essential travel?

sheramber

Butts said:

sheramber said:

od244051 said:

I’m not going on holiday for a week - to spend 7-10 hours standing to go through passport control and then spend 10 days self isolating. As the country I’m going to isn’t on the green or red lists so Amber

I struggle to stand for two hours. Plus it will be masked.  Think I will become ill doing this.

The government need to do something to reduce the queues. Plus many will struggle with the lack of toilets. Then first lot of loos past control will have yet another queue to use them!

 

Amber list countries and territories

What you must do if you have been in an amber country or territory in the 10 days before you arrive in England.

You should not travel to amber list countries or territories for leisure purposes.

Post May 17th will that advice not be advisory rather than mandatory ?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-amber-and-green-list-rules-for-entering-england#amber-list
New rules for a green list of countries will come into force 17 May.
I read that as only change is for green list countries.
For amber and red list countries there is no change.

lisyloo

sheramber said:

Butts said:

sheramber said:

od244051 said:

I’m not going on holiday for a week - to spend 7-10 hours standing to go through passport control and then spend 10 days self isolating. As the country I’m going to isn’t on the green or red lists so Amber

I struggle to stand for two hours. Plus it will be masked.  Think I will become ill doing this.

The government need to do something to reduce the queues. Plus many will struggle with the lack of toilets. Then first lot of loos past control will have yet another queue to use them!

 

Amber list countries and territories

What you must do if you have been in an amber country or territory in the 10 days before you arrive in England.

You should not travel to amber list countries or territories for leisure purposes.

Post May 17th will that advice not be advisory rather than mandatory ?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-amber-and-green-list-rules-for-entering-england#amber-list
New rules for a green list of countries will come into force 17 May.
I read that as only change is for green list countries.
For amber and red list countries there is no change.

That is from the Department of Transport and not the Foreign Office.
surprisingly they haven’t always been the same,
As far as travel insurance goes I believe it’s the FCO advice that counts.

personally I can’t do my holiday (Philippines) until there is demand as there will be no flights without demand.

CKhalvashi

lisyloo said:

CKhalvashi said:

This may get stickier than this still.

Albania is one that has stuck out to me as not having travel to it advised against by the FCO, but where government advice is a mandatory 10 day isolation.

I’m curious as to what you are referring to. The FCO page on Albania says holidays are illegal. We’re you referring to essential travel?

The FCO page had an advisory against all but essential travel last week, and now does not.

Canarias is another one, in this case where if you read the top (above the national restrictions) you will see my point
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The green list is here, which doesn't include any part of Spanish territory.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-amber-and-green-list-rules-for-entering-england#green-list

So once again, there are contries and territories that do not have travel to it advised against by the FCO, but where government advice is a mandatory 10 day isolation.

My travel insurance (underwritten by Aviva, so quite a common policy in circulation) for example won't cover me for travelling to the Azores under the FCO advice, where I don't need to isolate on return in any way if I were to go, but will cover me to go to Tenerife where there is an isolation period on return, which is where the government disagreeing with themselves doesn't make sense to me at all.

Spendless

Daughter and her boyf (both 18) booked to go to Greece (Rhodes) , 2nd week of July for 7 days. I'm left wondering whether they should go, hold their nerve see if things change or see if they can alter it but no idea to where or when.

I'm not knocking them for booking, they did so last August before 10pm curfews and rule of 6 and tier systems and 2 further lockdowns and when I could find no info whatsoever about any restrictions on sending her older brother back to Uni, and they wanted to celebrate the end of sixth form before going into higher education.

Though I'm not entirely sure as boyf made the booking (he was already 18) I suspect they haven't got travel insurance either.  (teenagers - sigh!)
 

ratechaser

Spendless said:

Daughter and her boyf (both 18) booked to go to Greece (Rhodes) , 2nd week of July for 7 days. I'm left wondering whether they should go, hold their nerve see if things change or see if they can alter it but no idea to where or when.

I'm not knocking them for booking, they did so last August before 10pm curfews and rule of 6 and tier systems and 2 further lockdowns and when I could find no info whatsoever about any restrictions on sending her older brother back to Uni, and they wanted to celebrate the end of sixth form before going into higher education.

Though I'm not entirely sure as boyf made the booking (he was already 18) I suspect they haven't got travel insurance either.  (teenagers - sigh!)
 

I've got Rhodes flights booked and paid for August and I'm just sitting tight for now. Admittedly they are with BA so pretty much risk free but I'm optimistic it will be greenlisted soon...

sheramber

CKhalvashi said:

lisyloo said:

CKhalvashi said:

This may get stickier than this still.

Albania is one that has stuck out to me as not having travel to it advised against by the FCO, but where government advice is a mandatory 10 day isolation.

I’m curious as to what you are referring to. The FCO page on Albania says holidays are illegal. We’re you referring to essential travel?

The FCO page had an advisory against all but essential travel last week, and now does not.

Canarias is another one, in this case where if you read the top (above the national restrictions) you will see my point
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The green list is here, which doesn't include any part of Spanish territory.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-amber-and-green-list-rules-for-entering-england#green-list

So once again, there are contries and territories that do not have travel to it advised against by the FCO, but where government advice is a mandatory 10 day isolation.

My travel insurance (underwritten by Aviva, so quite a common policy in circulation) for example won't cover me for travelling to the Azores under the FCO advice, where I don't need to isolate on return in any way if I were to go, but will cover me to go to Tenerife where there is an isolation period on return, which is where the government disagreeing with themselves doesn't make sense to me at all.

7 May 2021

Latest update:

The FCDO no longer advises against all but essential travel to the Azores. Updated information on easing lockdown measures in mainland Portugal. ('Coronavirus')

pjcox2005

Spendless said:

Daughter and her boyf (both 18) booked to go to Greece (Rhodes) , 2nd week of July for 7 days. I'm left wondering whether they should go, hold their nerve see if things change or see if they can alter it but no idea to where or when.

I'm not knocking them for booking, they did so last August before 10pm curfews and rule of 6 and tier systems and 2 further lockdowns and when I could find no info whatsoever about any restrictions on sending her older brother back to Uni, and they wanted to celebrate the end of sixth form before going into higher education.

Though I'm not entirely sure as boyf made the booking (he was already 18) I suspect they haven't got travel insurance either.  (teenagers - sigh!)
 

Pure guess, but I reckon they'll be fine. Their challenge may be that they are too young for vaccines so would probably need to pay for tests each way.
Search Covid vaccines and Greece look like they've jumped to 100k a day (11m population) over last few days and have already 1st vaccinated 25% of the population. They are a country that will be desperate to get tourism back. Always optimistic but I'm expecting Europe to look very different for Covid by end of June.

lisyloo

CKhalvashi said:

lisyloo said:

CKhalvashi said:

This may get stickier than this still.

Albania is one that has stuck out to me as not having travel to it advised against by the FCO, but where government advice is a mandatory 10 day isolation.

I’m curious as to what you are referring to. The FCO page on Albania says holidays are illegal. We’re you referring to essential travel?

The FCO page had an advisory against all but essential travel last week, and now does not.

Canarias is another one, in this case where if you read the top (above the national restrictions) you will see my point
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/spain

The green list is here, which doesn't include any part of Spanish territory.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-amber-and-green-list-rules-for-entering-england#green-list

So once again, there are contries and territories that do not have travel to it advised against by the FCO, but where government advice is a mandatory 10 day isolation.

My travel insurance (underwritten by Aviva, so quite a common policy in circulation) for example won't cover me for travelling to the Azores under the FCO advice, where I don't need to isolate on return in any way if I were to go, but will cover me to go to Tenerife where there is an isolation period on return, which is where the government disagreeing with themselves doesn't make sense to me at all.

I agree that it's odd that DOT & FCO advice does not appear to tie up.

Ganga

Spendless said:

Daughter and her boyf (both 18) booked to go to Greece (Rhodes) , 2nd week of July for 7 days. I'm left wondering whether they should go, hold their nerve see if things change or see if they can alter it but no idea to where or when.

I'm not knocking them for booking, they did so last August before 10pm curfews and rule of 6 and tier systems and 2 further lockdowns and when I could find no info whatsoever about any restrictions on sending her older brother back to Uni, and they wanted to celebrate the end of sixth form before going into higher education.

Though I'm not entirely sure as boyf made the booking (he was already 18) I suspect they haven't got travel insurance either.  (teenagers - sigh!)
 

We went to Rhodes last October ,super safe holiday , only problem i had was going to a local supermarket for some bottled water ,got to the shop then remembered i did not have my covid mask ,walked back to the apartment and picked up said mask ,walked into the shop and i was the only one with a mask on! bought a big bottle of water ( same size as the ones on water coolers in offices etc ) the shop owner offered to drop it off for free rather than me carry it ,typical Greek manners .
When we returned to the airport the taxi driver who wore a mask as did we said that there was next to no covid on the island but his mother had had a heart attack and they had put her in the  " covid " ward of the hospital .Would return in a heartbeat.