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  • Good that someone has latched onto what I was trying to express. Your set up makes the calculation more complicated than mine (no export - yet). I suspect that the answer to my query would be more relevant to someone on Agile.
    Telegraph Sam

    There are also unknown unknowns - the one's we don't know we don't know
  • masonic
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    ive just had my 1st bill in from octopus and looks  simple to understand inc each day price and usage
    only thing, im comparing final bill from SP and the readings from octopus is on the electric ive giving octopus the wrong final reading for the electric compared to final bill off SP, its only 4kw out, shall i mention this to octopus, i dont like anything lurking in the background that can come and bite back down the line
    Has it left you with unbilled usage or have you double paid for those units? SP should have used the validated readings supplied by Octopus.
    When I left SP years ago they used the wrong readings for my final bill (over charging me) and I got them to correct it easily enough.
  • no double charge, the end/start is 4 kw out but it hasnt been picked up on the opening reading
  • masonic
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    edited 5 December 2023 at 9:57PM
    no double charge, the end/start is 4 kw out but it hasnt been picked up on the opening reading

    The official change of supplier reading is provided to the gaining supplier (in your case Octopus) within 5 days of the switch date. No other reading is valid, so if SP has not billed you to this reading, they'd be entitled to rebill you within 12 months for the difference. It is up to you whether you poke them.
  • gt94sss2
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    edited 5 December 2023 at 9:57PM
    no double charge, the end/start is 4 kw out but it hasnt been picked up on the opening reading
    No point telling Octopus. 4 units is too small a difference for them too query according to industry guidelines 
  • Robgmun
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    this time last year on this tracker looking back at past dates
    gas was 13.1p and electric 44p, today 4.86 and 20.23 and compared to svr massive saving on here 
    and how come the gas price is droping, i thought it would be going up as we are into winter or is there a glut of it
    Because you won't listen to what people are telling you. Last year was a once in a lifetime event that won't be repeated again. This is the norm.
  • QrizB
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    Good that someone has latched onto what I was trying to express. Your set up makes the calculation more complicated than mine (no export - yet). I suspect that the answer to my query would be more relevant to someone on Agile.
    If the question is "how much am I saving as a Tracker customer due to self-consumption of.home-generated solar PV electricity?", the answer is simple but will take a bit of work.
    First, you need to know how much electricity you generate every day. Unless you have a smart way of recording this, you're going to have to read your generation meter daily, after sunset. The increase in the meter reading from the previous day is your daily generation.
    Then you need your daily export. Again, this is likely to mean reading your smart meter export register daily. The increase from the previous day is your export for the day.
    Subtract your export from your generation and you have your self-consumption. Multiply this by your Tracker tariff for the day and you will know how much you have saved.
    Add on your export payment and you have the total return for the solar PV system.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
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  • QrizB
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    edited 6 December 2023 at 12:16AM
    Robgmun said:
     Last year was a once in a lifetime event
    Every year is a once in a lifetime event. There won't be another 2021, or another 2022, or a 2023.
    And Tracker hasn't been going for long enough to establish a norm.

    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
  • @QrizB8. This risks straying into non-Tracker territory. I can read the solar meter daily. There will be times in summer when the SV will produce more kV's than I am using. Are these "lost"? And the reverse  in winter when consumption exceeds solar generation. And other periods when both apply. How can I calculate how much lower / higher my invoiced consumption would have been in these mixed periods if the solars were or were not on stream?

    Export I will leave to another day ..
    Telegraph Sam

    There are also unknown unknowns - the one's we don't know we don't know
  • Spoonie_Turtle
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    Robgmun said:
    this time last year on this tracker looking back at past dates
    gas was 13.1p and electric 44p, today 4.86 and 20.23 and compared to svr massive saving on here 
    and how come the gas price is droping, i thought it would be going up as we are into winter or is there a glut of it
    Because you won't listen to what people are telling you. Last year was a once in a lifetime event that won't be repeated again. This is the norm.
    But how many once-in-a-lifetime events have we had in just the past 5-10 years?  How many 'once-in-a lifetime' events are turning into repeated events?  (Rhetorical question, so much is happening and has happened that I can't keep track and don't expect anyone else to be able to either.)

    You're not wrong that prices last December were far outside the norm.  But we can't be complacent and assume it won't happen again, even within the lifetime of the tariff let alone our lifetimes.
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