HEARING LOST in a PCN dispute

bergantet

Umkomaas said:

bergantet said:

Umkomaas said:

The question is, is it enough for them to have photos of the vehicle going in and out? there is no barrier and they didn't show the car parked at all

That's all there ever is with an ANPR camera monitored car park, in and out. 

Thank you for your opinion, we will see how all this ends. I think I'll have to wait for the hearing in the County Court and see what happens.

While I can't guarantee it, the CEL MO is to pressurise you to jump through every hurdle placed in your way to defend the claim, meet all the deadlines and every court-required processes.  Then, if you don't, they're in quickly for a judgment in default against you. If you do comply with all of that, they discontinue or don't pay the court fee by due date. I'd be surprised if this did actually get to a hearing. Stay with the plan. 

Many Thanks

bergantet

Hi all,
I hope you are doing well. It's been 2 months and I haven't heard from CEL or CBCC, I know they have up to 6 months, but I was wondering if it looks good or if it doesn't mean anything. Anyway, I'll try to keep you posted.

KeithP

bergantet said:

Hi all,
I hope you are doing well. It's been 2 months and I haven't heard from CEL or CBCC, I know they have up to 6 months, but I was wondering if it looks good or if it doesn't mean anything. Anyway, I'll try to keep you posted.

I don't think it means anything.

You will hear nothing more from the CCBC.

The hearing court will write to you when they allocate a date and time for the hearing.

Not sure what you are referring to when you say 'they have six months'.

Coupon-mad

bergantet said:

Hi all,
I hope you are doing well. It's been 2 months and I haven't heard from CEL or CBCC, I know they have up to 6 months, but I was wondering if it looks good or if it doesn't mean anything. Anyway, I'll try to keep you posted.

Anyway before any more advice, we need to know you have done the Government Consultation and sent an email to your MP, who might well be one of those who was involved in the 2018 debates:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/78515438#Comment_78515438

To be clear, we need individuals (you and your family and friends, separately) to do the consultation linked there AND we are now calling for everyone to ask their MPs to raise with the MHCLG, what the heck has gone wrong since March, that they now think it's OK for false debt recovery costs to be added that positively drive cases to court?  

What are the MHCLG thinking?  That added sum was supposed to end.  The Knight Act included MPs unanimously condemning charges as high as £120, but this proposal takes it up to £200 and FUNDS THE ROBOCLAIM RACE TO COURT 

We want MPs to kick up a stink.

bergantet

KeithP said:

bergantet said:

Hi all,
I hope you are doing well. It's been 2 months and I haven't heard from CEL or CBCC, I know they have up to 6 months, but I was wondering if it looks good or if it doesn't mean anything. Anyway, I'll try to keep you posted.

I don't think it means anything.

You will hear nothing more from the CCBC.

The hearing court will write to you when they allocate a date and time for the hearing.

Not sure what you are referring to when you say 'they have six months'.

Thanks for the explanation. When I said they have six months', I meant I believe the hearing court has up to 6 months to contact me about the hearing....
Thanks

Redx

bergantet said:

KeithP said:

bergantet said:

Hi all,
I hope you are doing well. It's been 2 months and I haven't heard from CEL or CBCC, I know they have up to 6 months, but I was wondering if it looks good or if it doesn't mean anything. Anyway, I'll try to keep you posted.

I don't think it means anything.

You will hear nothing more from the CCBC.

The hearing court will write to you when they allocate a date and time for the hearing.

Not sure what you are referring to when you say 'they have six months'.

Thanks for the explanation. When I said they have six months', I meant I believe the hearing court has up to 6 months to contact me about the hearing....
Thanks

I doubt that , especially in a pandemic

Best to assume that the nominated local court will contact you in due course , and not put any time limit on that action

Stick to facts , not assumptions 😋😋

Coupon-mad

Just 3 weeks to do the Consultation.  Don't miss it!

bergantet

Coupon-mad said:

bergantet said:

Hi all,
I hope you are doing well. It's been 2 months and I haven't heard from CEL or CBCC, I know they have up to 6 months, but I was wondering if it looks good or if it doesn't mean anything. Anyway, I'll try to keep you posted.

Anyway before any more advice, we need to know you have done the Government Consultation and sent an email to your MP, who might well be one of those who was involved in the 2018 debates:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/78515438#Comment_78515438

To be clear, we need individuals (you and your family and friends, separately) to do the consultation linked there AND we are now calling for everyone to ask their MPs to raise with the MHCLG, what the heck has gone wrong since March, that they now think it's OK for false debt recovery costs to be added that positively drive cases to court?  

What are the MHCLG thinking?  That added sum was supposed to end.  The Knight Act included MPs unanimously condemning charges as high as £120, but this proposal takes it up to £200 and FUNDS THE ROBOCLAIM RACE TO COURT 

We want MPs to kick up a stink.

Thank you, is there a template that I can use to write to the MP and how to respond to the Government Consultation? I do not want to make big mistakes that, instead of helping in this matter, would have the opposite effect.
Thanks

Redx

bergantet said:

Coupon-mad said:

bergantet said:

Hi all,
I hope you are doing well. It's been 2 months and I haven't heard from CEL or CBCC, I know they have up to 6 months, but I was wondering if it looks good or if it doesn't mean anything. Anyway, I'll try to keep you posted.

Anyway before any more advice, we need to know you have done the Government Consultation and sent an email to your MP, who might well be one of those who was involved in the 2018 debates:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/78515438#Comment_78515438

To be clear, we need individuals (you and your family and friends, separately) to do the consultation linked there AND we are now calling for everyone to ask their MPs to raise with the MHCLG, what the heck has gone wrong since March, that they now think it's OK for false debt recovery costs to be added that positively drive cases to court?  

What are the MHCLG thinking?  That added sum was supposed to end.  The Knight Act included MPs unanimously condemning charges as high as £120, but this proposal takes it up to £200 and FUNDS THE ROBOCLAIM RACE TO COURT 

We want MPs to kick up a stink.

Thank you, is there a template that I can use to write to the MP and how to respond to the Government Consultation? I do not want to make big mistakes that, instead of helping in this matter, would have the opposite effect.
Thanks

No , definitely no template

Coupon-mad

No there isn't; you need to read what we have said in each of the links and absolutely NO WAY should we be telling you what to put as a template!  It needs to be your opinion, your words.  Does that make sense why?

If you read the linked threads you will understand the problems with weighting the highest penalty against those victims who don't receive a PCN or miss the short window to appeal.  That incentivises PCNs getting 'lost in the post'!

Also it's handing money to fund the race to court (what on earth are the MHCLG thinking) giving £70 per case to the likes of Gladstones who are being investigated by the SRA and who have a conflict of interests with the IPC Trade Body!

https://legalbeagles.info/forums/forum/legal-forums/motoring-parking/ppc-s-parking-charge-notices/ias/95073-all-change-at-gladstones-and-the-ipc

Same shareholders...same Directors in recent years as well.

And handing rogue DCAs £70 a pop instead of simply saying that the Single Appeals Service must be the 'safeguard' to prevent too many cases going to court, which should be re-offered as an ADR for 12 months (as the law on ADRs requires) is madness.