Electric meter faulty - energy supplier wants to fit smart meters

niktheguru

Yeah but remember the gas doesn't apply with the tou tariffs, so you can heat your house at peak times without paying higher rates, and can have a fixed rate deal on your gas at cheapest prices.
I'd agree if you have an EV or a storage battery (+/-solar), or fancy the challenge of paying the least for your energy by modifying use these tariffs are very good.
If you want an easy life and not bicker about a couple of pence per kwh then a fixed rate deal is definitely better.
Don't agree with you about the smart meters tho, but that's a different well documented argument entirely, and on a lot of other threads in the forum.

Grumpy_chap

Why do smart meters have the IHD?  Wouldn't it be better if all the data synced to an app on the phone?

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There are Apps available. Bulb uses the Chameleon Cloud to get IHD data to SmartThings. Bright App doesn’t even require an IHD; however, you have to agree that a third-party can access your smart meter data. The biggest problem is that not everybody has a smart mobile phone.

Telegraph_Sam

niktheguru said:

Yeah but remember the gas doesn't apply with the tou tariffs, so you can heat your house at peak times without paying higher rates, and can have a fixed rate deal on your gas at cheapest prices.

Slightly off topic (until they introduce gas smart meters) but in readers' experience is it often worth it going for separate gas and electricity supply contracts?
I suspect most people myself included go for just the one source out of convenience. But I could well believe that the best dual fuel deal could work out more expensive than splitting the supply.

brewerdave

Telegraph_Sam said:

niktheguru said:

Yeah but remember the gas doesn't apply with the tou tariffs, so you can heat your house at peak times without paying higher rates, and can have a fixed rate deal on your gas at cheapest prices.

Slightly off topic (until they introduce gas smart meters) but in readers' experience is it often worth it going for separate gas and electricity supply contracts?
I suspect most people myself included go for just the one source out of convenience. But I could well believe that the best dual fuel deal could work out more expensive than splitting the supply.

I've been on separate suppliers since I left EON in early 2017, when they stopped offering ever cheaper collective tariffs. One year fixes for electricity and also for gas (except for a 2 year fix with Better Energy). Never found a better deal for dual supply since. Just switching again to Neon Reef for leccy and Zog for gas.

Telegraph_Sam

Interesting and I may follow your example. Greater flexibility if nothing else though no doubt at the expense of a dual fuel discount. I suppose the procedure is to insert just gas or electric into the search engine separately and see what results.
As an aside I don't know if Neon (Reef) is the same as Neo Energy.  If ever there was a case for barge poles on account of reviews (negative) of the latter then this was one!
I think there at least  one if not two collective / community fix applications due shortly, both no doubt for dual fuel supply.

niktheguru

Dual fuel has been more expensive for a while now in general. Its always essential whenever you do price comparisons to do a dual fuel comparison and then single fuel comparisons. You'll definitely find the single fuels cheaper.

Neon reef is a completely different company to neo energy. Hence the different name! Neon reef are owned by the directors who own utility point. Neon reef generally has decent reviews and is completely online. (No phoneline), neo energy is apparently difficult to get onto as you have to email them for a quote and then sometimes they go silent (not a good sign)

Going with single suppliers is easy, especially if you don't want a smart meter. However for people who want a smart meter installation it's better to go duel fuel until the smets2 meter is installed and then move to single suppliers, as gas smart meters require an electricity smart meter to piggy back on, for the connection to the dcc/wan.

Telegraph_Sam

Single fuels - Sounds like a bit of no brainer for a non smart meter consumer such as myself.
May I repeat my earlier request for help from someone in getting the Octopus Go Faster tariff graph for my area (the North East) to display and to decipher same.

UnclaimedEnergy

Telegraph_Sam said:

Interesting and I may follow your example. Greater flexibility if nothing else though no doubt at the expense of a dual fuel discount. I suppose the procedure is to insert just gas or electric into the search engine separately and see what results.
As an aside I don't know if Neon (Reef) is the same as Neo Energy.  If ever there was a case for barge poles on account of reviews (negative) of the latter then this was one!
I think there at least  one if not two collective / community fix applications due shortly, both no doubt for dual fuel supply.

Neon Reef and Neo Energy are completely seperate.

Neon Reef is owned by the Utility Point owners
Neo Energy is owned by the Northumbria Energy/Euston Energy owners

Telegraph_Sam

I read recently somewhere a claim that fitting a smart meter "would save you money". I wondered if this was not verging  on the rosy-tinted optimistic as far as claims go. My house has a 7 day 24-hr thermostat. I can't off hand think of other ways of saving money on heating bills beyond turning the thermostat down (ignoring steps to improve the insulation). Oh, I almost forgot: Signing up to a competitive energy deal.