DCBL letters ..... forum group thread

patient_dream

Biku48 said:

Hi all respected Forum members

I need your help and support please.

Last year, I received a parking ticket from the Range and Lidl car park in Reading for slightly overstaying.

I have now received a claim form from the County Court Business Centre on behalf of DCB Legal. According to it, I have 14 days to pay £270. I would like to know what needs to be done at this stage. The documents I received in the past are not available to me.

Your advice would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards

I know the place, car park operated by UKPC but it's not their land

Could you describe the claim form as it sounds like there has been a court case, you did not defend and the default is the amount with 14 days to pay.

So we are sure, can you post it on this forum BUT NOT ON THIS THREAD ... you must start your own new thread

Can you upload an image in a new thread
Make certain you redact all personal info including the claim number

Sk7diver

patient_dream said:

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH DCBL ?

Clearly they don't know themselves .. they followed BWLegal into the daft claims industry, maybe not understanding how often BWLegal were spanked,   and now ..... DCBL want to avoid those court spankings for taking on rubbish cases with a simple Notification of Discontinuation

DCBL cannot deny that the current 57 cases of Discontinuation that we have so far seen on here are infact RUBBISH CASES wasting everyone's time including MCOL and the courts

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6377263/dcb-legal-record-of-private-parking-court-claim-discontinuations/p1

Do DCBL have an answer ... do DCBL have the guts to come on this forum and explain why they bring rubbish claims ?   

Question is:

When will anyone have the guts to actually take this people on all the way, and have this companies to cease their scam operations all together, once and for all! This people are using the Judiciary system to fraudulently raise funds! The regular Joe gets so intimidated that the easy way out is by means of payment! This is truly outrageous!

patient_dream

Sk7diver said:

patient_dream said:

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH DCBL ?

Clearly they don't know themselves .. they followed BWLegal into the daft claims industry, maybe not understanding how often BWLegal were spanked,   and now ..... DCBL want to avoid those court spankings for taking on rubbish cases with a simple Notification of Discontinuation

DCBL cannot deny that the current 57 cases of Discontinuation that we have so far seen on here are infact RUBBISH CASES wasting everyone's time including MCOL and the courts

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6377263/dcb-legal-record-of-private-parking-court-claim-discontinuations/p1

Do DCBL have an answer ... do DCBL have the guts to come on this forum and explain why they bring rubbish claims ?   

Question is:

When will anyone have the guts to actually take this people on all the way, and have this companies to cease their scam operations all together, once and for all! This people are using the Judiciary system to fraudulently raise funds! The regular Joe gets so intimidated that the easy way out is by means of payment! This is truly outrageous!

Yes, these monsters use the court system like a public convenience.
Trouble is that it's legal even though the courts are having the pi*s taken out of them ?   BIG TIME

This is a DCBL thread and many more people would take on this wild bunch in court but DCBL chicken out and waste the courts time

The MoJ should take action ?

Things will change though when government gets off it's backside and bring in the new appeals service.  If that works like the TPT, which it should, many more appeals will be in favour of the motorists and that means less donkey derby claims

Rishi the other day said he wants what we want ..... gobble gobble gobble

Suzy_1

Umkomaas said:

DCB Limited = ignore. 

DCB Legal (Letter Of/Before Claim) must be responded to using the advice in the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, second post (which you seem to have done).  

Only a Court Claim needs an acknowledgment of service (AOS). 

Hi @Umkomaas
How about a Solicitors Reminder Letter - Unpaid Parking Charge Notice from DCB Legal for the alleged charge I was not aware of nor received anything/PCN/NTK nothing whatsoever from 2019 for a hire car? Do we respond or not? 

Also this is a letter from DCB LEGAL and it gives 14 days to pay up. 

I’ve read all the replies to this thread but could not find anything for Solicitors Reminder from DCB LEGAL. Maybe I missed it sorry. 

I will open a new thread asking for advice but this is for others who received a similar letter which isn’t mentioned here before so I thought it might help. 

Thank you all x

Umkomaas

That's not there yet as far as a court claim is concerned.  The next letter will likely be the formal Letter Of/Before Claim, giving you 30 days to respond. If/when you receive that, follow guidance for dealing with it as shown in the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, second post.

Moneysavingexpertmember777

Hi. I wondered if anyone could help me out and / or direct me in the best place to post this for the best responses. 

A few years ago I was living in London, had a residents permit and received 2 x parking tickets saying I had parked without a permit. At the time of the contravention being raised admittedly the permits had were almost out of sight on my windscreen and can barely see them, that said, I was still a genuine resident of the road with permits which had been given to me and they were still in my car. 

I got a number of BS letters in the post and just last week received the Letter of Claim from DCBLegal - the first time they had been in touch as them and not DCBLimted

Having been on this post before and taken advice, in early 2021 when the bombardment of DCBLimted letters were coming through I requested the SAR which they came back to me and supplied all evidence. Within the evidence and various photos they took of the car, there were conversations that I had been in with UKPC at the time, highlighting the fact that I was a resident. I wrote to them:

Dear Sir / Madam

i have been a resident of XXXX for over two years and had my parking permit since that time.

Over the past week I have received two parking fines despite the UKPC permit being shown in the bottom

right hand of my wind. (Picture attached) I will therefore not be paying the fines for the two 'offences' dated

xxx and xxxx

I find it highly stressful that I have had a to go through this procedure despite my permit being in the window

at all times, not once but twice

If you would like me to photo copy and send you the permit or take more pictures of the residents permit I

would be more then happy to do so

Kind regards

They came back to me asking for a copy of the permit which I supplied them as one of their responses was: 

Thank you for your recent communication concerning the above parking charge.

We have carefully considered your appeal based on the information you have provided and the evidence

supporting the parking charge. In this instance having completed our assessment, we consider the parking charge

to have been correctly issued. However, based on the evidence you have provided, we have decided to reduce the

charge to £15 as a gesture of goodwill, if payment is received within thirty-five days of this letter.

Our appeals process is now concluded, you may now choose one of the following options:

1) Pay the parking charge detailed above at the reduced rate of £15 to UK Parking Control Ltd. PLEASE REFER

OVERLEAF FOR PAYMENT OPTIONS AND ADDRESS DETAILS.

2) Make an appeal to the independent adjudicator POPLA (Parking on Private Land Appeals) using the verification

code provided above. Please note that if you wish to appeal to POPLA, you will lose the right to pay the discounted

rate of £15, and should POPLA reject your appeal you will be required to pay the full amount of £100. If you opt to

pay the parking charge you will be unable to appeal with POPLA. Appeals to POPLA must be made within twentyeight

days from the date of this letter. To appeal with POPLA, please visit www.popla.co.uk. If you are unable to

access the internet, you may appeal by post – this must be done using a POPLA postal form which may be

obtained by contacting POPLA by phone (0330 159 6126) or post (PO Box 1270, Warrington, WA4 9RL).

By law we are also required to inform you that Ombudsman Services (www.ombudsman-services.org/) provides

an alternative dispute resolution service that would be competent to deal with your appeal. However, we have not

chosen to participate in their alternative dispute resolution service. As such should you wish to appeal then you

must do so to POPLA, as explained above.

3) If you choose to do nothing the parking charge will automatically increase after thirty-five days from the date of

this letter to £100 and the matter will be passed to our debt recovery agent, at which point you will be liable to pay

an additional charge of £60, in accordance with the terms and conditions of parking, and further charges will be

claimed if court action is taken against you. Any unpaid court judgement may adversely affect your credit rating.

PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE THIS LETTER. UKPC REGULARLY TAKES MOTORISTS TO COURT WHO IGNORE

THEIR PARKING CHARGES. PLEASE SEE: www.ukparkingcontrol.com/parking-legalities FOR FURTHER

INFORMATION.

Yours faithfully,

Appeals Department

UK Parking Control Limited

© UK

The charge outstanding is for £320, (2 x £160 fines)... the reason why I haven't paid is as I was genuinely a resident at that time. It looks now like i've got two options, pay or go to court. If I go to court, do I have a case? If I also choose to go to court with me having a SAR are there any replies or responses to UKPC or DCBL that I need to give, I feel that I should communicate with them somehow and not just ignore this letter as its a Letter of Claim 

Thank you for your help 

DE_612183

Moneysavingexpertmember777 said:

Hi. I wondered if anyone could help me out and / or direct me in the best place to post this for the best responses. 

A few years ago I was living in London, had a residents permit and received 2 x parking tickets saying I had parked without a permit. At the time of the contravention being raised admittedly the permits had were almost out of sight on my windscreen and can barely see them, that said, I was still a genuine resident of the road with permits which had been given to me and they were still in my car. 

I got a number of BS letters in the post and just last week received the Letter of Claim from DCBLegal - the first time they had been in touch as them and not DCBLimted

Having been on this post before and taken advice, in early 2021 when the bombardment of DCBLimted letters were coming through I requested the SAR which they came back to me and supplied all evidence. Within the evidence and various photos they took of the car, there were conversations that I had been in with UKPC at the time, highlighting the fact that I was a resident. I wrote to them:

Dear Sir / Madam

i have been a resident of XXXX for over two years and had my parking permit since that time.

Over the past week I have received two parking fines despite the UKPC permit being shown in the bottom

right hand of my wind. (Picture attached) I will therefore not be paying the fines for the two 'offences' dated

xxx and xxxx

I find it highly stressful that I have had a to go through this procedure despite my permit being in the window

at all times, not once but twice

If you would like me to photo copy and send you the permit or take more pictures of the residents permit I

would be more then happy to do so

Kind regards

They came back to me asking for a copy of the permit which I supplied them as one of their responses was: 

Thank you for your recent communication concerning the above parking charge.

We have carefully considered your appeal based on the information you have provided and the evidence

supporting the parking charge. In this instance having completed our assessment, we consider the parking charge

to have been correctly issued. However, based on the evidence you have provided, we have decided to reduce the

charge to £15 as a gesture of goodwill, if payment is received within thirty-five days of this letter.

Our appeals process is now concluded, you may now choose one of the following options:

1) Pay the parking charge detailed above at the reduced rate of £15 to UK Parking Control Ltd. PLEASE REFER

OVERLEAF FOR PAYMENT OPTIONS AND ADDRESS DETAILS.

2) Make an appeal to the independent adjudicator POPLA (Parking on Private Land Appeals) using the verification

code provided above. Please note that if you wish to appeal to POPLA, you will lose the right to pay the discounted

rate of £15, and should POPLA reject your appeal you will be required to pay the full amount of £100. If you opt to

pay the parking charge you will be unable to appeal with POPLA. Appeals to POPLA must be made within twentyeight

days from the date of this letter. To appeal with POPLA, please visit www.popla.co.uk. If you are unable to

access the internet, you may appeal by post – this must be done using a POPLA postal form which may be

obtained by contacting POPLA by phone (0330 159 6126) or post (PO Box 1270, Warrington, WA4 9RL).

By law we are also required to inform you that Ombudsman Services (www.ombudsman-services.org/) provides

an alternative dispute resolution service that would be competent to deal with your appeal. However, we have not

chosen to participate in their alternative dispute resolution service. As such should you wish to appeal then you

must do so to POPLA, as explained above.

3) If you choose to do nothing the parking charge will automatically increase after thirty-five days from the date of

this letter to £100 and the matter will be passed to our debt recovery agent, at which point you will be liable to pay

an additional charge of £60, in accordance with the terms and conditions of parking, and further charges will be

claimed if court action is taken against you. Any unpaid court judgement may adversely affect your credit rating.

PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE THIS LETTER. UKPC REGULARLY TAKES MOTORISTS TO COURT WHO IGNORE

THEIR PARKING CHARGES. PLEASE SEE: www.ukparkingcontrol.com/parking-legalities FOR FURTHER

INFORMATION.

Yours faithfully,

Appeals Department

UK Parking Control Limited

© UK

The charge outstanding is for £320, (2 x £160 fines)... the reason why I haven't paid is as I was genuinely a resident at that time. It looks now like i've got two options, pay or go to court. If I go to court, do I have a case? If I also choose to go to court with me having a SAR are there any replies or responses to UKPC or DCBL that I need to give, I feel that I should communicate with them somehow and not just ignore this letter as its a Letter of Claim 

Thank you for your help 

Follow the steps to go to court - they will discontinue at the last moment.

Moneysavingexpertmember777

You honestly think so? So the best advice is to ignore, ignore, ignore and no interaction with UKPC or DBLegal?

Will it get to the point of getting a summons from Court? I can really, really do with out that. 

Coupon-mad

Moneysavingexpertmember777 said:

You honestly think so? So the best advice is to ignore, ignore, ignore and no interaction with UKPC or DBLegal?

That's not the advice you were given.  LBC stage is covered in the NEWBIES thread and no-one says to ignore them.  @DE_612183 did not say that.

"the reason why I haven't paid is"

Because you aren't stupid!  Because UKPC are ex-clampers and operating an unfair regime that seeks to penalise residents.

You don't need a 'reason' or excuse; you are the wronged party here.  No-one except a clueless or scared victim would pay £160 per PCN!

Some might have paid the £15 but you are disputing these charges on solid fact, liability and principle and will win because they will discontinue before the hearing as long as you follow the FULL advice in the NEWBIES thread, which doesn't tell anyone to ignore a LBC!.

You seem to have missed the thread by @Umkomaas showing everyone what happens in well-defended DCBLegal / UKPC claims = discontinuance before hearings.

"Will it get to the point of getting a summons from Court? I can really, really do with out that."

You won't get a 'summons'.  This is not a criminal case!

Yes you will get a claim this Spring.  Of course!  Great!  Bring it on!  That is the beginning of the end of the scam.  Fully covered in the second post of the NEWBIES thread and you will win.

Are they sending the letters to the right address, given I think you said you'd moved?

Respond setting out your dispute, confirming your correct address for service of the meritless claim and (this is important) telling them to 'erase any old other postal address held' and finish by telling DCBLegal to hurry up and file a claim and discontinue like they always do, or preferably save their client the filing fee and just get stuffed now.

Moneysavingexpertmember777

Thank you, so if I won't ignore them I should enter in to conversation with either them or UKPC now, as its now at the LoC stage? 

I could really do with seeing that, on the off chance would you have a link or any key words I can put in to the searchbar to take me straight through to it...? 

Many thanks