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Help regarding car I bought on finance, that’s modified.

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  • Mikej92
    Mikej92 Posts: 155 Forumite
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    Mikej92 said:
    Looks like I’ve just found some evidence (hopefully) that the dealers ‘inspector’ would of seen the exhaust and DPF delete.

    going through the pre inspection document, ‘exhaust condition’ is ticked as being completely fine, my understanding is, the exhaust would be from the manifold, back to the rear silencer ? Or am I wrong ? The DPF would be in between that ?

    please correct me if I’m wrong.
    Evidence of what?

    The car has an exhaust that isn't leaking and the emissions are within mot tolerances.

    Unless you've blanked out the personal details that could be for any vehicle.
    Yeah my details and his are at the bottom, along with registration etc.

    guess this isn’t a proof doc then.

    Finance have sent him a email, awaiting his reply and possible resolution (return of the vehicle) as I don’t want to ‘ruin’ my car as he’s kindly told me on a few occasions. 


    In regards to date and times of the ecu, I can’t comment on that, they have told me it would store a code (regardless of whether it’s been returned to standard).
  • Takmon
    Takmon Posts: 1,738 Forumite
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    Mikej92 said:
    tedted said:
    wrong
    What is wrong? 
    Mate, the guts of my DPF have been ripped out, re welded shut, meaning there’s nothing inside(an open box) just like removing the internals of a catalytic converters.

    the car also has NO silencers, I’ve been under the ramp while it was at Ford and seen that for myself.

    Without the DPF you will have a car that operates more efficiently with more power, better fuel efficiency and never having to worry about future DFP issues. It's stupid that your making such a fuss about this when you should have been happy the DFP wasn't there and looked at is as a bonus. You said it was cut and welded shut so wouldn't have failed any MOT's either.


  • Mikej92
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    Takmon said:
    Mikej92 said:
    tedted said:
    wrong
    What is wrong? 
    Mate, the guts of my DPF have been ripped out, re welded shut, meaning there’s nothing inside(an open box) just like removing the internals of a catalytic converters.

    the car also has NO silencers, I’ve been under the ramp while it was at Ford and seen that for myself.

    Without the DPF you will have a car that operates more efficiently with more power, better fuel efficiency and never having to worry about future DFP issues. It's stupid that your making such a fuss about this when you should have been happy the DFP wasn't there and looked at is as a bonus. You said it was cut and welded shut so wouldn't have failed any MOT's either.


    So, drive it illegally, with no warranty? 
    Sound advice ,that. 
  • Scrapit
    Scrapit Posts: 2,304 Forumite
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    Mikej92 said:
    Takmon said:
    Mikej92 said:
    tedted said:
    wrong
    What is wrong? 
    Mate, the guts of my DPF have been ripped out, re welded shut, meaning there’s nothing inside(an open box) just like removing the internals of a catalytic converters.

    the car also has NO silencers, I’ve been under the ramp while it was at Ford and seen that for myself.

    Without the DPF you will have a car that operates more efficiently with more power, better fuel efficiency and never having to worry about future DFP issues. It's stupid that your making such a fuss about this when you should have been happy the DFP wasn't there and looked at is as a bonus. You said it was cut and welded shut so wouldn't have failed any MOT's either.


    So, drive it illegally, with no warranty? 
    Sound advice ,that. 
    The warranty you have isnt worth having, its a second hand car. And yes, drive it illegally. There's loads of cars like this, just Google dpf delete for the hundreds of garages that will do this for you. Also, are you never gonna mod it yourself or speed in it-which is illegal? You've been very foolish, consistently. Get it back to the dealers ASAP, lockdown or not (this is a genuine reason to travel, as is going to a safari park for exercise apparently). Then go buy a petrol clio.
  • Mikej92
    Mikej92 Posts: 155 Forumite
    Third Anniversary 100 Posts
    Scrapit said:
    Mikej92 said:
    Takmon said:
    Mikej92 said:
    tedted said:
    wrong
    What is wrong? 
    Mate, the guts of my DPF have been ripped out, re welded shut, meaning there’s nothing inside(an open box) just like removing the internals of a catalytic converters.

    the car also has NO silencers, I’ve been under the ramp while it was at Ford and seen that for myself.

    Without the DPF you will have a car that operates more efficiently with more power, better fuel efficiency and never having to worry about future DFP issues. It's stupid that your making such a fuss about this when you should have been happy the DFP wasn't there and looked at is as a bonus. You said it was cut and welded shut so wouldn't have failed any MOT's either.


    So, drive it illegally, with no warranty? 
    Sound advice ,that. 
    The warranty you have isnt worth having, its a second hand car. And yes, drive it illegally. There's loads of cars like this, just Google dpf delete for the hundreds of garages that will do this for you. Also, are you never gonna mod it yourself or speed in it-which is illegal? You've been very foolish, consistently. Get it back to the dealers ASAP, lockdown or not (this is a genuine reason to travel, as is going to a safari park for exercise apparently). Then go buy a petrol clio.
    I’ll be passing a safari park also apparently haha.

    Yes, finance company are stepping in now as he’s not corresponding with me directly.
  • Scrapit
    Scrapit Posts: 2,304 Forumite
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    Mikej92 said:
    Scrapit said:
    Mikej92 said:
    Takmon said:
    Mikej92 said:
    tedted said:
    wrong
    What is wrong? 
    Mate, the guts of my DPF have been ripped out, re welded shut, meaning there’s nothing inside(an open box) just like removing the internals of a catalytic converters.

    the car also has NO silencers, I’ve been under the ramp while it was at Ford and seen that for myself.

    Without the DPF you will have a car that operates more efficiently with more power, better fuel efficiency and never having to worry about future DFP issues. It's stupid that your making such a fuss about this when you should have been happy the DFP wasn't there and looked at is as a bonus. You said it was cut and welded shut so wouldn't have failed any MOT's either.


    So, drive it illegally, with no warranty? 
    Sound advice ,that. 
    The warranty you have isnt worth having, its a second hand car. And yes, drive it illegally. There's loads of cars like this, just Google dpf delete for the hundreds of garages that will do this for you. Also, are you never gonna mod it yourself or speed in it-which is illegal? You've been very foolish, consistently. Get it back to the dealers ASAP, lockdown or not (this is a genuine reason to travel, as is going to a safari park for exercise apparently). Then go buy a petrol clio.
    I’ll be passing a safari park also apparently haha.

    Yes, finance company are stepping in now as he’s not corresponding with me directly.
    Mikej92 said:
    Scrapit said:
    Mikej92 said:
    Takmon said:
    Mikej92 said:
    tedted said:
    wrong
    What is wrong? 
    Mate, the guts of my DPF have been ripped out, re welded shut, meaning there’s nothing inside(an open box) just like removing the internals of a catalytic converters.

    the car also has NO silencers, I’ve been under the ramp while it was at Ford and seen that for myself.

    Without the DPF you will have a car that operates more efficiently with more power, better fuel efficiency and never having to worry about future DFP issues. It's stupid that your making such a fuss about this when you should have been happy the DFP wasn't there and looked at is as a bonus. You said it was cut and welded shut so wouldn't have failed any MOT's either.


    So, drive it illegally, with no warranty? 
    Sound advice ,that. 
    The warranty you have isnt worth having, its a second hand car. And yes, drive it illegally. There's loads of cars like this, just Google dpf delete for the hundreds of garages that will do this for you. Also, are you never gonna mod it yourself or speed in it-which is illegal? You've been very foolish, consistently. Get it back to the dealers ASAP, lockdown or not (this is a genuine reason to travel, as is going to a safari park for exercise apparently). Then go buy a petrol clio.
    I’ll be passing a safari park also apparently haha.

    Yes, finance company are stepping in now as he’s not corresponding with me directly.
    This is all a mess of your own making. Be more careful next time.
  • Takmon
    Takmon Posts: 1,738 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Second Anniversary Name Dropper
    Mikej92 said:
    Takmon said:
    Mikej92 said:
    tedted said:
    wrong
    What is wrong? 
    Mate, the guts of my DPF have been ripped out, re welded shut, meaning there’s nothing inside(an open box) just like removing the internals of a catalytic converters.

    the car also has NO silencers, I’ve been under the ramp while it was at Ford and seen that for myself.

    Without the DPF you will have a car that operates more efficiently with more power, better fuel efficiency and never having to worry about future DFP issues. It's stupid that your making such a fuss about this when you should have been happy the DFP wasn't there and looked at is as a bonus. You said it was cut and welded shut so wouldn't have failed any MOT's either.


    So, drive it illegally, with no warranty? 
    Sound advice ,that. 

    I've had plenty of cars with modified exhausts and remaps etc that i have driven around without issues and know plenty of other people who have too. Who really cares? Your just going to worry yourself into an early grave if things like that bother you so much. 

    What warranty is it? I'm assuming this is a warranty that the dealer purchased from a third party and not a warranty supplied directly from the dealer. 
    This warranty is probably so limited anyway that your extremely unlikely to have any issues covered by it. But even if you do then it's extremely unlikely that they will be taking apart the exhaust to try and find reasons to pass on to the warranty company why they should refuse it. The garage will want the work so will not be looking for reasons to pass on to the warranty company so they refuse to pay out.
  • Mikej92 said:
    Scrapit said:
    Mikej92 said:
    Takmon said:
    Mikej92 said:
    tedted said:
    wrong
    What is wrong? 
    Mate, the guts of my DPF have been ripped out, re welded shut, meaning there’s nothing inside(an open box) just like removing the internals of a catalytic converters.

    the car also has NO silencers, I’ve been under the ramp while it was at Ford and seen that for myself.

    Without the DPF you will have a car that operates more efficiently with more power, better fuel efficiency and never having to worry about future DFP issues. It's stupid that your making such a fuss about this when you should have been happy the DFP wasn't there and looked at is as a bonus. You said it was cut and welded shut so wouldn't have failed any MOT's either.


    So, drive it illegally, with no warranty? 
    Sound advice ,that. 
    The warranty you have isnt worth having, its a second hand car. And yes, drive it illegally. There's loads of cars like this, just Google dpf delete for the hundreds of garages that will do this for you. Also, are you never gonna mod it yourself or speed in it-which is illegal? You've been very foolish, consistently. Get it back to the dealers ASAP, lockdown or not (this is a genuine reason to travel, as is going to a safari park for exercise apparently). Then go buy a petrol clio.
    I’ll be passing a safari park also apparently haha.

    Yes, finance company are stepping in now as he’s not corresponding with me directly.
    You've said they've sent an email what time scales are we talking about for the dealer to respond?

    The insurance company have thrown you a lifeline but only for five days, you don't want them cancelling the policy. That's something you need to do after returning the car.
  • Mikej92
    Mikej92 Posts: 155 Forumite
    Third Anniversary 100 Posts
    Mikej92 said:
    Scrapit said:
    Mikej92 said:
    Takmon said:
    Mikej92 said:
    tedted said:
    wrong
    What is wrong? 
    Mate, the guts of my DPF have been ripped out, re welded shut, meaning there’s nothing inside(an open box) just like removing the internals of a catalytic converters.

    the car also has NO silencers, I’ve been under the ramp while it was at Ford and seen that for myself.

    Without the DPF you will have a car that operates more efficiently with more power, better fuel efficiency and never having to worry about future DFP issues. It's stupid that your making such a fuss about this when you should have been happy the DFP wasn't there and looked at is as a bonus. You said it was cut and welded shut so wouldn't have failed any MOT's either.


    So, drive it illegally, with no warranty? 
    Sound advice ,that. 
    The warranty you have isnt worth having, its a second hand car. And yes, drive it illegally. There's loads of cars like this, just Google dpf delete for the hundreds of garages that will do this for you. Also, are you never gonna mod it yourself or speed in it-which is illegal? You've been very foolish, consistently. Get it back to the dealers ASAP, lockdown or not (this is a genuine reason to travel, as is going to a safari park for exercise apparently). Then go buy a petrol clio.
    I’ll be passing a safari park also apparently haha.

    Yes, finance company are stepping in now as he’s not corresponding with me directly.
    You've said they've sent an email what time scales are we talking about for the dealer to respond?

    The insurance company have thrown you a lifeline but only for five days, you don't want them cancelling the policy. That's something you need to do after returning the car.
    They said I should hear back by the end of day.

    I’ve just updated them with the whole
    insurance thing too, and they’re going to contact the dealer again, my partner has just found their Facebook page, if I used it myself and looked there, I’d of known to steer clear, this isn’t the first complaint they’ve had regarding similar.

    There’s a review regarding mileage clocking, and they’ve replied back to the review saying ‘well that isn’t our problem, you signed the waiver’ 
  • Mikej92 said:
    Mikej92 said:
    Scrapit said:
    Mikej92 said:
    Takmon said:
    Mikej92 said:
    tedted said:
    wrong
    What is wrong? 
    Mate, the guts of my DPF have been ripped out, re welded shut, meaning there’s nothing inside(an open box) just like removing the internals of a catalytic converters.

    the car also has NO silencers, I’ve been under the ramp while it was at Ford and seen that for myself.

    Without the DPF you will have a car that operates more efficiently with more power, better fuel efficiency and never having to worry about future DFP issues. It's stupid that your making such a fuss about this when you should have been happy the DFP wasn't there and looked at is as a bonus. You said it was cut and welded shut so wouldn't have failed any MOT's either.


    So, drive it illegally, with no warranty? 
    Sound advice ,that. 
    The warranty you have isnt worth having, its a second hand car. And yes, drive it illegally. There's loads of cars like this, just Google dpf delete for the hundreds of garages that will do this for you. Also, are you never gonna mod it yourself or speed in it-which is illegal? You've been very foolish, consistently. Get it back to the dealers ASAP, lockdown or not (this is a genuine reason to travel, as is going to a safari park for exercise apparently). Then go buy a petrol clio.
    I’ll be passing a safari park also apparently haha.

    Yes, finance company are stepping in now as he’s not corresponding with me directly.
    You've said they've sent an email what time scales are we talking about for the dealer to respond?

    The insurance company have thrown you a lifeline but only for five days, you don't want them cancelling the policy. That's something you need to do after returning the car.
    They said I should hear back by the end of day.

    I’ve just updated them with the whole
    insurance thing too, and they’re going to contact the dealer again, my partner has just found their Facebook page, if I used it myself and looked there, I’d of known to steer clear, this isn’t the first complaint they’ve had regarding similar.

    There’s a review regarding mileage clocking, and they’ve replied back to the review saying ‘well that isn’t our problem, you signed the waiver’ 
    If I were you I'd be looking up the garage on companies house. Look at the individuals named and see how many times their limited companies have evolved into something else.

    No doubt their website is a generic one looking like any other car trader of the type you visited.

    Hate to say it but the time to do your homework was before agreeing to buy the car.
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