Fallen for a potential iPhone scam - 3pinproducts.com

LipMarck

Fake reviews keep getting posted like crazy, but genuine ones are almost removed immediately.

born_again

happypie said:

born_again said:

Caz3121 said:

I get the feeling that the 'being shipped from Australia / Malaysia" is purely a ruse to keep taking peoples money and delay the inevitable closing down of website and disappearing with people's money. (as happened with previous company) It gives him another 2-3 weeks potentially. You can only hope that anyone that does any research will find the red flags and avoid. 

Well the good news is if he does that a Chargeback will still get your money back if the goods do not arrive. It comes from the retailers merchant bank.

I would reiterate to anyone that has not got their goods. That a Visa chargeback can be started 15 days after the debit on your account, even if they state a later delivery.

what if he withdraws money from his business bank account and closes the account? will chargeback still work? it might be basic question but i genuinely don't know.

Read the bit in BOLD.

I can't make it any clearer.

born_again

shellypiee said:

happypie said:

born_again said:

Caz3121 said:

I get the feeling that the 'being shipped from Australia / Malaysia" is purely a ruse to keep taking peoples money and delay the inevitable closing down of website and disappearing with people's money. (as happened with previous company) It gives him another 2-3 weeks potentially. You can only hope that anyone that does any research will find the red flags and avoid. 

Well the good news is if he does that a Chargeback will still get your money back if the goods do not arrive. It comes from the retailers merchant bank.

I would reiterate to anyone that has not got their goods. That a Visa chargeback can be started 15 days after the debit on your account, even if they state a later delivery.

what if he withdraws money from his business bank account and closes the account? will chargeback still work? it might be basic question but i genuinely don't know.

I asked HSBC about the chargeback, and they said that chargeback and dispute are the same and my timeframe is 120 days from purchase,
not sure if this is correct but it seems to be my only option! 

You have a MAX of 120 days from debit date (or expected date of delivery (for future dated goods/services) up to a max of 540 days) to start the chargeback/dispute process.
Clearly the sooner you start the process the better it is for you.

happypie

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth said:

happypie said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

LipMarck said:

Here's another scam website albeit not by Luca Guerra (that I can see).

https://ukswitchshop.com/

The prices are so low for PS4 and PS5 that there's probably people out there who already bought it. In a perfect world scammers would be arrested, but it's not.

In a perfect world, people would buy from proper retailers rather than from any old website that's the cheapest result on google, without any research or even basic checks.

If someone in a pub offered you a brand new, warranty backed ipad for £200 less than you could buy it on Amazon, you'd run a mile.  Stick it on 
www.superdoopercheaptech.com and people can't wait to chuck money at it. 

Of course both are different situations.
Credit card companies like visa claim that you should feel secure when doing transactions. 
There are websites like wowcamera who do sell cheaper and not scam so its not like things never sell cheaper than official website, samsung phones are so expensive on their website but always available cheaper elsewhere so its not always clear if website is scam or not.
A company which takes payment via credit card, has good trust pilot score would seem trustable at quick glance.
But if someone is abusing system that how can it be consumers fault?

Why should my bank compensate people who have not taken basic precautions when buy cheap?

I get what you are saying.
But chargeback and section 75 are features of product (credit card) which banks sold and earned money...
So they are just following process and not doing any favour.
If there were no rules of chargeback or section 75, people would be more careful i guess... like they do in cash transactions. And at the same time credit card would not be as popular mode of payment as they are today and banks would earn less money.

happypie

born_again said:

happypie said:

born_again said:

Caz3121 said:

I get the feeling that the 'being shipped from Australia / Malaysia" is purely a ruse to keep taking peoples money and delay the inevitable closing down of website and disappearing with people's money. (as happened with previous company) It gives him another 2-3 weeks potentially. You can only hope that anyone that does any research will find the red flags and avoid. 

Well the good news is if he does that a Chargeback will still get your money back if the goods do not arrive. It comes from the retailers merchant bank.

I would reiterate to anyone that has not got their goods. That a Visa chargeback can be started 15 days after the debit on your account, even if they state a later delivery.

what if he withdraws money from his business bank account and closes the account? will chargeback still work? it might be basic question but i genuinely don't know.

Read the bit in BOLD.

I can't make it any clearer.

Ok got it so retailers bank would pay even if they can't recover it from retailers account. Thanks.

AbsBerks

happypie said:

born_again said:

happypie said:

born_again said:

Caz3121 said:

I get the feeling that the 'being shipped from Australia / Malaysia" is purely a ruse to keep taking peoples money and delay the inevitable closing down of website and disappearing with people's money. (as happened with previous company) It gives him another 2-3 weeks potentially. You can only hope that anyone that does any research will find the red flags and avoid. 

Well the good news is if he does that a Chargeback will still get your money back if the goods do not arrive. It comes from the retailers merchant bank.

I would reiterate to anyone that has not got their goods. That a Visa chargeback can be started 15 days after the debit on your account, even if they state a later delivery.

what if he withdraws money from his business bank account and closes the account? will chargeback still work? it might be basic question but i genuinely don't know.

Read the bit in BOLD.

I can't make it any clearer.

Ok got it so retailers bank would pay even if they can't recover it from retailers account. Thanks.

Ultimately if there cannot be a recovery, someone's insurer (your bank, retailer's bank, retailer's) will pay but you will get it back!

LipMarck

happypie said:

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth said:

happypie said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

LipMarck said:

Here's another scam website albeit not by Luca Guerra (that I can see).

https://ukswitchshop.com/

The prices are so low for PS4 and PS5 that there's probably people out there who already bought it. In a perfect world scammers would be arrested, but it's not.

In a perfect world, people would buy from proper retailers rather than from any old website that's the cheapest result on google, without any research or even basic checks.

If someone in a pub offered you a brand new, warranty backed ipad for £200 less than you could buy it on Amazon, you'd run a mile.  Stick it on 
www.superdoopercheaptech.com and people can't wait to chuck money at it. 

Of course both are different situations.
Credit card companies like visa claim that you should feel secure when doing transactions. 
There are websites like wowcamera who do sell cheaper and not scam so its not like things never sell cheaper than official website, samsung phones are so expensive on their website but always available cheaper elsewhere so its not always clear if website is scam or not.
A company which takes payment via credit card, has good trust pilot score would seem trustable at quick glance.
But if someone is abusing system that how can it be consumers fault?

Why should my bank compensate people who have not taken basic precautions when buy cheap?

I get what you are saying.
But chargeback and section 75 are features of product (credit card) which banks sold and earned money...
So they are just following process and not doing any favour.
If there were no rules of chargeback or section 75, people would be more careful i guess... like they do in cash transactions. And at the same time credit card would not be as popular mode of payment as they are today and banks would earn less money.

Exactly. Besides, if customers who were robbed take no action it just makes it even worse (while good for the scammers).

Moreover, noticed a new review about Fitbit, but there are no Fitbits for sale.



"3 days"

Yeah, right!

LipMarck

There's been a wave of new reviews.

Well, that's for Trustpilot to deal with. But, {Name removed by Forum Team} needs to be arrested even though he probably won't.

siimreeno

They've removed two of my 1* reviews for literally no reason.

siimreeno

LipMarck said:

There's been a wave of new reviews.

Well, that's for Trustpilot to deal with. But, {Name removed by Forum Team} needs to be arrested even though he probably won't.

Agreed. He needs to know that he can't carry on doing things like this.