Fallen for a potential iPhone scam - 3pinproducts.com

happypie

born_again said:

Caz3121 said:

I get the feeling that the 'being shipped from Australia / Malaysia" is purely a ruse to keep taking peoples money and delay the inevitable closing down of website and disappearing with people's money. (as happened with previous company) It gives him another 2-3 weeks potentially. You can only hope that anyone that does any research will find the red flags and avoid. 

Well the good news is if he does that a Chargeback will still get your money back if the goods do not arrive. It comes from the retailers merchant bank.

I would reiterate to anyone that has not got their goods. That a Visa chargeback can be started 15 days after the debit on your account, even if they state a later delivery.

what if he withdraws money from his business bank account and closes the account? will chargeback still work? it might be basic question but i genuinely don't know.

shellypiee

happypie said:

born_again said:

Caz3121 said:

I get the feeling that the 'being shipped from Australia / Malaysia" is purely a ruse to keep taking peoples money and delay the inevitable closing down of website and disappearing with people's money. (as happened with previous company) It gives him another 2-3 weeks potentially. You can only hope that anyone that does any research will find the red flags and avoid. 

Well the good news is if he does that a Chargeback will still get your money back if the goods do not arrive. It comes from the retailers merchant bank.

I would reiterate to anyone that has not got their goods. That a Visa chargeback can be started 15 days after the debit on your account, even if they state a later delivery.

what if he withdraws money from his business bank account and closes the account? will chargeback still work? it might be basic question but i genuinely don't know.

I asked HSBC about the chargeback, and they said that chargeback and dispute are the same and my timeframe is 120 days from purchase,
not sure if this is correct but it seems to be my only option! 

LipMarck

Here's another scam website albeit not by {Name removed by Forum Team} Guerra (that I can see).

https://ukswitchshop.com/

The prices are so low for PS4 and PS5 that there's probably people out there who already bought it. In a perfect world scammers would be arrested, but it's not.

Spank

You'd have to borderline (a word I cannot say here) to believe that you can buy an unreleased console for £200 off.

Aylesbury_Duck

LipMarck said:

Here's another scam website albeit not by Luca Guerra (that I can see).

https://ukswitchshop.com/

The prices are so low for PS4 and PS5 that there's probably people out there who already bought it. In a perfect world scammers would be arrested, but it's not.

In a perfect world, people would buy from proper retailers rather than from any old website that's the cheapest result on google, without any research or even basic checks.

If someone in a pub offered you a brand new, warranty backed ipad for £200 less than you could buy it on Amazon, you'd run a mile.  Stick it on 
www.superdoopercheaptech.com and people can't wait to chuck money at it. 

happypie

Aylesbury_Duck said:

LipMarck said:

Here's another scam website albeit not by Luca Guerra (that I can see).

https://ukswitchshop.com/

The prices are so low for PS4 and PS5 that there's probably people out there who already bought it. In a perfect world scammers would be arrested, but it's not.

In a perfect world, people would buy from proper retailers rather than from any old website that's the cheapest result on google, without any research or even basic checks.

If someone in a pub offered you a brand new, warranty backed ipad for £200 less than you could buy it on Amazon, you'd run a mile.  Stick it on 
www.superdoopercheaptech.com and people can't wait to chuck money at it. 

Of course both are different situations.
Credit card companies like visa claim that you should feel secure when doing transactions. 
There are websites like wowcamera who do sell cheaper and not scam so its not like things never sell cheaper than official website, samsung phones are so expensive on their website but always available cheaper elsewhere so its not always clear if website is scam or not.
A company which takes payment via credit card, has good trust pilot score would seem trustable at quick glance.
But if someone is abusing system that how can it be consumers fault?

Aylesbury_Duck

happypie said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

LipMarck said:

Here's another scam website albeit not by Luca Guerra (that I can see).

https://ukswitchshop.com/

The prices are so low for PS4 and PS5 that there's probably people out there who already bought it. In a perfect world scammers would be arrested, but it's not.

In a perfect world, people would buy from proper retailers rather than from any old website that's the cheapest result on google, without any research or even basic checks.

If someone in a pub offered you a brand new, warranty backed ipad for £200 less than you could buy it on Amazon, you'd run a mile.  Stick it on 
www.superdoopercheaptech.com and people can't wait to chuck money at it. 

Of course both are different situations.
Credit card companies like visa claim that you should feel secure when doing transactions. 
There are websites like wowcamera who do sell cheaper and not scam so its not like things never sell cheaper than official website, samsung phones are so expensive on their website but always available cheaper elsewhere so its not always clear if website is scam or not.
A company which takes payment via credit card, has good trust pilot score would seem trustable at quick glance.
But if someone is abusing system that how can it be consumers fault?

It's not the consumer's fault, but people who rush into bargains without some basic checks have to bear some responsibility for the mess they find themselves in and accept that the price they pay for unrealistically trying to cut costs is delay, some anxiety and a whole load of hassle sorting it out if it turns out to be too good to be true.

Do they deserve a refund if the company is a scam?  Of course.

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth

happypie said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

LipMarck said:

Here's another scam website albeit not by Luca Guerra (that I can see).

https://ukswitchshop.com/

The prices are so low for PS4 and PS5 that there's probably people out there who already bought it. In a perfect world scammers would be arrested, but it's not.

In a perfect world, people would buy from proper retailers rather than from any old website that's the cheapest result on google, without any research or even basic checks.

If someone in a pub offered you a brand new, warranty backed ipad for £200 less than you could buy it on Amazon, you'd run a mile.  Stick it on 
www.superdoopercheaptech.com and people can't wait to chuck money at it. 

Of course both are different situations.
Credit card companies like visa claim that you should feel secure when doing transactions. 
There are websites like wowcamera who do sell cheaper and not scam so its not like things never sell cheaper than official website, samsung phones are so expensive on their website but always available cheaper elsewhere so its not always clear if website is scam or not.
A company which takes payment via credit card, has good trust pilot score would seem trustable at quick glance.
But if someone is abusing system that how can it be consumers fault?

Why should my bank compensate people who have not taken basic precautions when buy cheap?

shellypiee

Aylesbury_Duck said:

happypie said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

LipMarck said:

Here's another scam website albeit not by Luca Guerra (that I can see).

https://ukswitchshop.com/

The prices are so low for PS4 and PS5 that there's probably people out there who already bought it. In a perfect world scammers would be arrested, but it's not.

In a perfect world, people would buy from proper retailers rather than from any old website that's the cheapest result on google, without any research or even basic checks.

If someone in a pub offered you a brand new, warranty backed ipad for £200 less than you could buy it on Amazon, you'd run a mile.  Stick it on 
www.superdoopercheaptech.com and people can't wait to chuck money at it. 

Of course both are different situations.
Credit card companies like visa claim that you should feel secure when doing transactions. 
There are websites like wowcamera who do sell cheaper and not scam so its not like things never sell cheaper than official website, samsung phones are so expensive on their website but always available cheaper elsewhere so its not always clear if website is scam or not.
A company which takes payment via credit card, has good trust pilot score would seem trustable at quick glance.
But if someone is abusing system that how can it be consumers fault?

It's not the consumer's fault, but people who rush into bargains without some basic checks have to bear some responsibility for the mess they find themselves in and accept that the price they pay for unrealistically trying to cut costs is delay, some anxiety and a whole load of hassle sorting it out if it turns out to be too good to be true.

Do they deserve a refund if the company is a scam?  Of course.

By this logic, google and trustpilot also have to accept responsibility, by misleading the consumer during the "basic check". 

Aylesbury_Duck

shellypiee said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

happypie said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

LipMarck said:

Here's another scam website albeit not by Luca Guerra (that I can see).

https://ukswitchshop.com/

The prices are so low for PS4 and PS5 that there's probably people out there who already bought it. In a perfect world scammers would be arrested, but it's not.

In a perfect world, people would buy from proper retailers rather than from any old website that's the cheapest result on google, without any research or even basic checks.

If someone in a pub offered you a brand new, warranty backed ipad for £200 less than you could buy it on Amazon, you'd run a mile.  Stick it on 
www.superdoopercheaptech.com and people can't wait to chuck money at it. 

Of course both are different situations.
Credit card companies like visa claim that you should feel secure when doing transactions. 
There are websites like wowcamera who do sell cheaper and not scam so its not like things never sell cheaper than official website, samsung phones are so expensive on their website but always available cheaper elsewhere so its not always clear if website is scam or not.
A company which takes payment via credit card, has good trust pilot score would seem trustable at quick glance.
But if someone is abusing system that how can it be consumers fault?

It's not the consumer's fault, but people who rush into bargains without some basic checks have to bear some responsibility for the mess they find themselves in and accept that the price they pay for unrealistically trying to cut costs is delay, some anxiety and a whole load of hassle sorting it out if it turns out to be too good to be true.

Do they deserve a refund if the company is a scam?  Of course.

By this logic, google and trustpilot also have to accept responsibility, by misleading the consumer during the "basic check". 

Er...ok. Ask them to sort it out for you, then.