New face covering measures

Barny1979

MarkN88 said:

bradders1983 said:

You dont think GPs are busy enough?

Didn’t say they were not busy enough, it was just a solution to a mask issue that will be getting abuse. 

The free NHS parking passes were being abused too, it's how the General Public of this country are in this day and age.

sweetgirl2015

I think this virus hasent gone away from the fact of sketchy rules which we have had to endure since March. 
How can it be right I can't see my nearest and dearest which is of course my boyfriend of 4 years. Yet he can go to a factory and work with over 20 other colleagues, all sharing the same building and canteen.
At this rate its never going away because the government don't live in a real world. 

JamoLew

sweetgirl2015 said:

I think this virus hasent gone away from the fact of sketchy rules which we have had to endure since March. 
How can it be right I can't see my nearest and dearest which is of course my boyfriend of 4 years. Yet he can go to a factory and work with over 20 other colleagues, all sharing the same building and canteen.
At this rate its never going away because the government don't live in a real world. 

They do live in the real world though, that's the problem.
They have to balance the economy and the welfare of the population (and the lack of respect for guidance and the law)
How would you suggest we get rid of it ?

sweetgirl2015

JamoLew said:

sweetgirl2015 said:

I think this virus hasent gone away from the fact of sketchy rules which we have had to endure since March. 
How can it be right I can't see my nearest and dearest which is of course my boyfriend of 4 years. Yet he can go to a factory and work with over 20 other colleagues, all sharing the same building and canteen.
At this rate its never going away because the government don't live in a real world. 

They do live in the real world though, that's the problem.
They have to balance the economy and the welfare of the population (and the lack of respect for guidance and the law)
How would you suggest we get rid of it ?

Well since you asked heres my theory. And I know this will sound drastic, unmanagable, even a pipe dream, but ifwe stocked up for a months worth of food, which isn't outragious as I know lots of people who do a monthly shop, then we all hibernate for 3 weeks obviously with government instructions, and in theory it will kill off all transmission of the virus as it only stays alive on an infected person for 11 days apparently.
Compare that to the disruption and death we have encountered this year already my theory doesnt seem too much of a sacrifice. 

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Also hopefully you would get physically closer to your boyfriend of 4 years, than he would to his colleagues at work!!
So more risk of you passing it on to each other.

Just like I realize I'm actually less likely to catch it from the woman I shoot an evil look at, who I see yakking away on her phone as she barges down the aisle at the supermarket.    And more likely to catch it visiting beloved family members.

The more time you spend with someone and the closer the distance, plus the worse the ventilation, the more the risk.

JamoLew

sweetgirl2015 said:

JamoLew said:

sweetgirl2015 said:

I think this virus hasent gone away from the fact of sketchy rules which we have had to endure since March. 
How can it be right I can't see my nearest and dearest which is of course my boyfriend of 4 years. Yet he can go to a factory and work with over 20 other colleagues, all sharing the same building and canteen.
At this rate its never going away because the government don't live in a real world. 

They do live in the real world though, that's the problem.
They have to balance the economy and the welfare of the population (and the lack of respect for guidance and the law)
How would you suggest we get rid of it ?

Well since you asked heres my theory. And I know this will sound drastic, unmanagable, even a pipe dream, but ifwe stocked up for a months worth of food, which isn't outragious as I know lots of people who do a monthly shop, then we all hibernate for 3 weeks obviously with government instructions, and in theory it will kill off all transmission of the virus as it only stays alive on an infected person for 11 days apparently.
Compare that to the disruption and death we have encountered this year already my theory doesnt seem too much of a sacrifice. 

And we come out with no economy - no food having been grown, no consumables having been made
Sheer Anarchy as i presume the Police have to hibernate as well
Half the country burnt down as the Fire Brigade were hibernating
All the sick people dying cause the NHS hibernates
Yes - a pipe dream
If only it was that simple

sweetgirl2015

JamoLew said:

sweetgirl2015 said:

JamoLew said:

sweetgirl2015 said:

I think this virus hasent gone away from the fact of sketchy rules which we have had to endure since March. 
How can it be right I can't see my nearest and dearest which is of course my boyfriend of 4 years. Yet he can go to a factory and work with over 20 other colleagues, all sharing the same building and canteen.
At this rate its never going away because the government don't live in a real world. 

They do live in the real world though, that's the problem.
They have to balance the economy and the welfare of the population (and the lack of respect for guidance and the law)
How would you suggest we get rid of it ?

Well since you asked heres my theory. And I know this will sound drastic, unmanagable, even a pipe dream, but ifwe stocked up for a months worth of food, which isn't outragious as I know lots of people who do a monthly shop, then we all hibernate for 3 weeks obviously with government instructions, and in theory it will kill off all transmission of the virus as it only stays alive on an infected person for 11 days apparently.
Compare that to the disruption and death we have encountered this year already my theory doesnt seem too much of a sacrifice. 

And we come out with no economy - no food having been grown, no consumables having been made
Sheer Anarchy as i presume the Police have to hibernate as well
Half the country burnt down as the Fire Brigade were hibernating
All the sick people dying cause the NHS hibernates
Yes - a pipe dream
If only it was that simple

Sorry no I meant normal people, not anyone from the emergency services, or nhs, I thought that would be obvious. The economy is shrinking from covid anyway, just a lot more drawn out. 3 weeks isnt really that long compared to the terrible last 6 months. And things will still grow unattended. Farmers dont have to leave their premises anyway. Its really not that impossible to do. 

JamoLew

well thats what the 1st national lockdown almost covered -- and that was much longer than 3 weeks and look at the cost (financial and health wise that caused)
we need to learn to live with this virus and accept the consequences -- it isnt going anywhere fast (especially whilst planes are still flying)

bradders1983

sweetgirl2015 said:

JamoLew said:

sweetgirl2015 said:

JamoLew said:

sweetgirl2015 said:

I think this virus hasent gone away from the fact of sketchy rules which we have had to endure since March. 
How can it be right I can't see my nearest and dearest which is of course my boyfriend of 4 years. Yet he can go to a factory and work with over 20 other colleagues, all sharing the same building and canteen.
At this rate its never going away because the government don't live in a real world. 

They do live in the real world though, that's the problem.
They have to balance the economy and the welfare of the population (and the lack of respect for guidance and the law)
How would you suggest we get rid of it ?

Well since you asked heres my theory. And I know this will sound drastic, unmanagable, even a pipe dream, but ifwe stocked up for a months worth of food, which isn't outragious as I know lots of people who do a monthly shop, then we all hibernate for 3 weeks obviously with government instructions, and in theory it will kill off all transmission of the virus as it only stays alive on an infected person for 11 days apparently.
Compare that to the disruption and death we have encountered this year already my theory doesnt seem too much of a sacrifice. 

And we come out with no economy - no food having been grown, no consumables having been made
Sheer Anarchy as i presume the Police have to hibernate as well
Half the country burnt down as the Fire Brigade were hibernating
All the sick people dying cause the NHS hibernates
Yes - a pipe dream
If only it was that simple

Sorry no I meant normal people, not anyone from the emergency services, or nhs, I thought that would be obvious. The economy is shrinking from covid anyway, just a lot more drawn out. 3 weeks isnt really that long compared to the terrible last 6 months. And things will still grow unattended. Farmers dont have to leave their premises anyway. Its really not that impossible to do. 

Wouldnt work unless emergency workers and those who work in the NHS are inmune from catching and/or spreading the virus. Sorry but a ludicrous idea. What about vets? Animals not going to get ill in those 3 weeks either?
People who work in broadcasting? Are they going to turn the transmitters off for 3 weeks as well?

Uxb1

I'd add to the lists above by saying we would all be dead anyway as the domestic water supply would fail within days if everyone stayed at home.
That woudl give most people a life expectancy measured in a few days to a week without clean drinking water or any water at all.
(Well not me - I've got a house well from the days when the property was built)
So that means you need the water treatment works working and the chemicals and sundry supply chain all working, tanker drivers working and the rest and so on and so on.  For hospitals you need a huge logistics operations of daily supplies not to mention repairs for failed essential equipment. Take Oxygen so you need the oxygen plants and all those who work in them full operational, so they have to get to work so we need petrol stations for their car all working.