New face covering measures

poppy10_2

Jeremy535897 said:

Aranyani said:

ToxicWomble said:

Just one look at the news article today from Coventry would firmly point the finger at a certain age group.(partially)
Moaning about being isolated In halls and behaving in a totally inconsiderate manner like that - you reap what you sow 
Just waiting on the howls of dismay when they are booted off the course with the “but we weren’t doing anything wrong cries”

Right, because I bet you would have loved being away from your family for the very first time and ending up shut in a single bedroom, and you would definitely have had the maturity to handle it at 18. 

Having been sent to a boarding school at the age of 9, knowing nobody there and having no contact with my parents for a month at a time (no mobiles in those far off days), I confess I struggle to be sympathetic

Aww. Poor little rich boomer, having to struggle at his expensive private boarding school. Must have been so hard for you growing up.

elsien

poppy10_2 said:

Jeremy535897 said:

Aranyani said:

ToxicWomble said:

Just one look at the news article today from Coventry would firmly point the finger at a certain age group.(partially)
Moaning about being isolated In halls and behaving in a totally inconsiderate manner like that - you reap what you sow 
Just waiting on the howls of dismay when they are booted off the course with the “but we weren’t doing anything wrong cries”

Right, because I bet you would have loved being away from your family for the very first time and ending up shut in a single bedroom, and you would definitely have had the maturity to handle it at 18. 

Having been sent to a boarding school at the age of 9, knowing nobody there and having no contact with my parents for a month at a time (no mobiles in those far off days), I confess I struggle to be sympathetic

Aww. Poor little rich boomer, having to struggle at his expensive private boarding school. Must have been so hard for you growing up.

Nothing like jumping to conclusions on the basis of very little evidence.
I went to boarding school age 11. Paid for by the government because my parents were with the service children’s education authority and there were no British Forces schools for older children in that country.
Your inverse snobbery is showing. Envy is not an attractive trait. 

Jeremy535897

elsien said:

poppy10_2 said:

Jeremy535897 said:

Aranyani said:

ToxicWomble said:

Just one look at the news article today from Coventry would firmly point the finger at a certain age group.(partially)
Moaning about being isolated In halls and behaving in a totally inconsiderate manner like that - you reap what you sow 
Just waiting on the howls of dismay when they are booted off the course with the “but we weren’t doing anything wrong cries”

Right, because I bet you would have loved being away from your family for the very first time and ending up shut in a single bedroom, and you would definitely have had the maturity to handle it at 18. 

Having been sent to a boarding school at the age of 9, knowing nobody there and having no contact with my parents for a month at a time (no mobiles in those far off days), I confess I struggle to be sympathetic

Aww. Poor little rich boomer, having to struggle at his expensive private boarding school. Must have been so hard for you growing up.

Nothing like jumping to conclusions on the basis of very little evidence.
I went to boarding school age 11. Paid for by the government because my parents were with the service children’s education authority and there were no British Forces schools for older children in that country.
Your inverse snobbery is showing. Envy is not an attractive trait. 

Yes, I was at that sort of school. Not paid for by anyone though, my parents saved every penny to send me there, no holidays etc.

jimi_man

poppy10_2 said:

Jeremy535897 said:

Aranyani said:

ToxicWomble said:

Just one look at the news article today from Coventry would firmly point the finger at a certain age group.(partially)
Moaning about being isolated In halls and behaving in a totally inconsiderate manner like that - you reap what you sow 
Just waiting on the howls of dismay when they are booted off the course with the “but we weren’t doing anything wrong cries”

Right, because I bet you would have loved being away from your family for the very first time and ending up shut in a single bedroom, and you would definitely have had the maturity to handle it at 18. 

Having been sent to a boarding school at the age of 9, knowing nobody there and having no contact with my parents for a month at a time (no mobiles in those far off days), I confess I struggle to be sympathetic

Aww. Poor little rich boomer, having to struggle at his expensive private boarding school. Must have been so hard for you growing up.

I also went to boarding school at the age of 9. In 1974 if memory serves. I imagine it's changed a bit since then.  

Maybe you're the exception around here? 

Kim_kim

Aranyani said:

ToxicWomble said:

The problem as I understand it is that if the unis hadn’t opened up for new starters this year and hasn’t been In receipt of the fees then a large proportion of them would have gone bust

Because we can bail out banks but not education or health

I can’t believe we are bailing out football teams - I’m sure I saw that on the news today.  We should be bailing out unis not football clubs.  

Aranyani

poppy10_2 said:

Jeremy535897 said:

Aranyani said:

ToxicWomble said:

Just one look at the news article today from Coventry would firmly point the finger at a certain age group.(partially)
Moaning about being isolated In halls and behaving in a totally inconsiderate manner like that - you reap what you sow 
Just waiting on the howls of dismay when they are booted off the course with the “but we weren’t doing anything wrong cries”

Right, because I bet you would have loved being away from your family for the very first time and ending up shut in a single bedroom, and you would definitely have had the maturity to handle it at 18. 

Having been sent to a boarding school at the age of 9, knowing nobody there and having no contact with my parents for a month at a time (no mobiles in those far off days), I confess I struggle to be sympathetic

Aww. Poor little rich boomer, having to struggle at his expensive private boarding school. Must have been so hard for you growing up.

Money is nothing to do with it, being abandoned by your parents and sent away from the family home and support at such a young age is a terrible thing to have done to you, no matter how much money your parents have.  

Andy_L

Aranyani said:

gettingtheresometime said:

ToxicWomble said:

Jeremy535897 said:

ToxicWomble said:

The problem as I understand it is that if the unis hadn’t opened up for new starters this year and hasn’t been In receipt of the fees then a large proportion of them would have gone bust

I think a lot of students will rightly question why they have to be the ones to do the supporting, particularly as it seems to put them at greater risk of coronavirus for very little benefit, if their courses are mostly online and they can't go anywhere.

I kind of agree - my spouse works at a uni.

However, the students were all complaining that they were being robbed of their life experience of uni and wanted a refund if the courses were only online.
From what I gather the content is just as good and if anything is more time consuming and expensive to prepare and deliver (possibly prep costs would be lower in subsequent years)
Some course as well are totally unsuitable for online delivery
Another incidence of damned if we do, damned if we don’t 

You do have to wonder what they were expecting, given the world that they had lived in for the past 6 months.
The 'uni experience' was one reason being given for many to defer their places until next year which, imo, could have resolved the issue of the exam results farce in one easy decision.

And how would the universities have survived that year?

and how would they have fitted in the extra students the next year?

gettingtheresometime

Andy_L said:

Aranyani said:

gettingtheresometime said:

ToxicWomble said:

Jeremy535897 said:

ToxicWomble said:

The problem as I understand it is that if the unis hadn’t opened up for new starters this year and hasn’t been In receipt of the fees then a large proportion of them would have gone bust

I think a lot of students will rightly question why they have to be the ones to do the supporting, particularly as it seems to put them at greater risk of coronavirus for very little benefit, if their courses are mostly online and they can't go anywhere.

I kind of agree - my spouse works at a uni.

However, the students were all complaining that they were being robbed of their life experience of uni and wanted a refund if the courses were only online.
From what I gather the content is just as good and if anything is more time consuming and expensive to prepare and deliver (possibly prep costs would be lower in subsequent years)
Some course as well are totally unsuitable for online delivery
Another incidence of damned if we do, damned if we don’t 

You do have to wonder what they were expecting, given the world that they had lived in for the past 6 months.
The 'uni experience' was one reason being given for many to defer their places until next year which, imo, could have resolved the issue of the exam results farce in one easy decision.

And how would the universities have survived that year?

and how would they have fitted in the extra students the next year?

As I said before, no one would be allowed to defer their place using this year's exam results. If they chose to wait a year, then they would have to reapply so that the current year 13 would at least be on a level playing field.
It may be that the current yr 13 also have grades awarded to them using a formula using teacher assessments BUT at least the playing field would be more level that it stands at the present with some students going to university next year using teacher predicted grades and others having to sit exams hoping that they perform sufficiently well on the day to reach the required grade.