New face covering measures

Aranyani

ToxicWomble said:

Just one look at the news article today from Coventry would firmly point the finger at a certain age group.(partially)
Moaning about being isolated In halls and behaving in a totally inconsiderate manner like that - you reap what you sow 
Just waiting on the howls of dismay when they are booted off the course with the “but we weren’t doing anything wrong cries”

Right, because I bet you would have loved being away from your family for the very first time and ending up shut in a single bedroom, and you would definitely have had the maturity to handle it at 18. 

ToxicWomble

I certainly would not have acted like those idiots at any age - and then have the audacity to complain about action taken against me for breaking the rules - I am glad you think you know me better then I know myself 
Welcome to the age of self entitlement, no accountability and victim culture.
There is a fair chance many of them will be booted off the course for breaking the rules and rightly so
They need to learn that actions have consequences and to stop trying to blame anyone else but themselves

Jeremy535897

Aranyani said:

ToxicWomble said:

Just one look at the news article today from Coventry would firmly point the finger at a certain age group.(partially)
Moaning about being isolated In halls and behaving in a totally inconsiderate manner like that - you reap what you sow 
Just waiting on the howls of dismay when they are booted off the course with the “but we weren’t doing anything wrong cries”

Right, because I bet you would have loved being away from your family for the very first time and ending up shut in a single bedroom, and you would definitely have had the maturity to handle it at 18. 

Having been sent to a boarding school at the age of 9, knowing nobody there and having no contact with my parents for a month at a time (no mobiles in those far off days), I confess I struggle to be sympathetic for that reason, but I do question who thought it was a good idea to bring people together from all over the country in circumstances where the only pressing need for it seems to have been the ability to collect fees from them.

ToxicWomble

The problem as I understand it is that if the unis hadn’t opened up for new starters this year and hasn’t been In receipt of the fees then a large proportion of them would have gone bust

Aranyani

Jeremy535897 said:

Aranyani said:

ToxicWomble said:

Just one look at the news article today from Coventry would firmly point the finger at a certain age group.(partially)
Moaning about being isolated In halls and behaving in a totally inconsiderate manner like that - you reap what you sow 
Just waiting on the howls of dismay when they are booted off the course with the “but we weren’t doing anything wrong cries”

Right, because I bet you would have loved being away from your family for the very first time and ending up shut in a single bedroom, and you would definitely have had the maturity to handle it at 18. 

Having been sent to a boarding school at the age of 9, knowing nobody there and having no contact with my parents for a month at a time (no mobiles in those far off days), I confess I struggle to be sympathetic for that reason, but I do question who thought it was a good idea to bring people together from all over the country in circumstances where the only pressing need for it seems to have been the ability to collect fees from them.

Well I have a lot of sympathy for you being put through that at such a young age. 

Aranyani

ToxicWomble said:

The problem as I understand it is that if the unis hadn’t opened up for new starters this year and hasn’t been In receipt of the fees then a large proportion of them would have gone bust

Because we can bail out banks but not education or health

Jeremy535897

ToxicWomble said:

The problem as I understand it is that if the unis hadn’t opened up for new starters this year and hasn’t been In receipt of the fees then a large proportion of them would have gone bust

I think a lot of students will rightly question why they have to be the ones to do the supporting, particularly as it seems to put them at greater risk of coronavirus for very little benefit, if their courses are mostly online and they can't go anywhere.

gettingtheresometime

ToxicWomble said:

I bet if you were ever in a hospital or on a operating table you would be moaning like hell if the medical staff weren’t wearing a mask.
Youre not fighting for anyone’s freedom you just being entitled and selfish imo

I was listening to a R4 programme many moons ago and in it, a surgeon was saying that there had been a trial whereby the medical staff didn't wear masks.
It was discovered that the rate of medic to patient infection was very little, if not non existent. However medics found that the masks protected THEM from patient to medic infections - think about blood squirting up etc and that medics wore the masks for that very reason.

Personally I think a person is more likely to wear a mask and/or adhere to the regulations depending on your experience of covid. If they've had it, know someone who has had it (even if they've not died), imo, the disease is more 'real' than someone who doesn't

ToxicWomble

Jeremy535897 said:

ToxicWomble said:

The problem as I understand it is that if the unis hadn’t opened up for new starters this year and hasn’t been In receipt of the fees then a large proportion of them would have gone bust

I think a lot of students will rightly question why they have to be the ones to do the supporting, particularly as it seems to put them at greater risk of coronavirus for very little benefit, if their courses are mostly online and they can't go anywhere.

I kind of agree - my spouse works at a uni.

However, the students were all complaining that they were being robbed of their life experience of uni and wanted a refund if the courses were only online.
From what I gather the content is just as good and if anything is more time consuming and expensive to prepare and deliver (possibly prep costs would be lower in subsequent years)
Some course as well are totally unsuitable for online delivery
Another incidence of damned if we do, damned if we don’t 

gettingtheresometime

ToxicWomble said:

Jeremy535897 said:

ToxicWomble said:

The problem as I understand it is that if the unis hadn’t opened up for new starters this year and hasn’t been In receipt of the fees then a large proportion of them would have gone bust

I think a lot of students will rightly question why they have to be the ones to do the supporting, particularly as it seems to put them at greater risk of coronavirus for very little benefit, if their courses are mostly online and they can't go anywhere.

I kind of agree - my spouse works at a uni.

However, the students were all complaining that they were being robbed of their life experience of uni and wanted a refund if the courses were only online.
From what I gather the content is just as good and if anything is more time consuming and expensive to prepare and deliver (possibly prep costs would be lower in subsequent years)
Some course as well are totally unsuitable for online delivery
Another incidence of damned if we do, damned if we don’t 

You do have to wonder what they were expecting, given the world that they had lived in for the past 6 months.
The 'uni experience' was one reason being given for many to defer their places until next year which, imo, could have resolved the issue of the exam results farce in one easy decision.