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Fallout for not attending a wedding.

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  • nicechap
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    edited 20 August 2020 at 5:43PM
    I don't think non-teachers realise that Sunday is a working day for teachers.  

    Probably because it isn't.  
    It was for my wife and she was a head of department. 

    People like ebsey  seem to make up unverifiable stories or quotes In order to put others down.
    Originally Posted by shortcrust
    "Contact the Ministry of Fairness....If sufficient evidence of unfairness is discovered you’ll get an apology, a permanent contract with backdated benefits, a ‘Let’s Make it Fair!’ tshirt and mug, and those guilty of unfairness will be sent on a Fairness Awareness course."
  • nicechap said:
    I don't think non-teachers realise that Sunday is a working day for teachers.  

    Probably because it isn't.  
    It was for my wife and she was a head of department. 

    People like ebsey  seem to make up unverifiable stories or quotes In order to put others down.
    A working day is a day where you are contracted to work, paid to work and expected to do so for a certain numbers of hours, often at a specified location.  If you don't do this, you can be disciplined for unauthorised absence. 

    That teachers usually do some of their work from home and outside of the hours that the children attend school, and sometimes they choose to do this on a Sunday, does not in any way make Sunday a working day for teachers. 
  • Spendless
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    Some people will find 'Sorry we can't make it' sufficient and be ok with that, some won't and would like more detail.
    Some will find 'Sorry can't make it because it's a 7 hour trip that day. we have issues making the babies bottles up and I have to do some work that day' sufficient reason to not attend and be ok with that and others will think you're making excuses you could overcome.
    Some will find 'Sorry we can't make it because I'd rather not stay overnight the day before as I'm new to a job and need to spend prepping, we've never taken the baby away before and it's the weekend after we've moved house' as reasonable reason to not attend and some won't be hapy with that either.
    Only people who know your wife's Aunt will kniow which scenario she's likely to be. You've stated you're not going. There's nothing more you can do.
  • nicechap said:
    nicechap said:
    I don't think non-teachers realise that Sunday is a working day for teachers.  

    Probably because it isn't.  
    It was for my wife and she was a head of department. 

    People like ebsey  seem to make up unverifiable stories or quotes In order to put others down.
    A working day is a day where you are contracted to work, paid to work and expected to do so for a certain numbers of hours, often at a specified location.  If you don't do this, you can be disciplined for unauthorised absence. 

    That teachers usually do some of their work from home and outside of the hours that the children attend school, and sometimes they choose to do this on a Sunday, does not in any way make Sunday a working day for teachers. 
    You are wrong on so many levels.  Not every job has a machine that you clock in and out from.  Most teachers have a contract for a minimum number of hours per year, plus preparation & marking times, and in my experience do many many more hours on top.  Perhaps after lockdown you could visit the next NUT conference and tell the delegates they don't work on a Sunday and see how you get on.

    I'm sure lots of teachers do do some of their work on a Sunday. 

    But Sunday is not a working day for teachers in this country. 
  • sheramber
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    You are perfectly entitled to decline an invitation. 
    You have several reasons to do so but you do not need to justify yourself to anyone.
    Many weddings exclude babies  as they might disrupt the proceedings , specially if they are teething.
    One I  attended, the mother of an infant missed the whole meal as she was away feeding the baby . She had a warmed up meal  afterwards.
  • bradders1983
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    edited 20 August 2020 at 10:46PM
    I don't think non-teachers realise that Sunday is a working day for teachers.  

    OP, you're new job and baby are your priorities. 
    probably the same way teachers don't realise that non teachers have to go to work when there is 1cm of snow on the ground....


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  • I'm sure lots of teachers do do some of their work on a Sunday. 
    But Sunday is not a working day for teachers in this country. 
    You may think you are making a very pertinent and clever point but many people here, and anybody who has ever done any teaching or indeed any responsible job (a new job !!!!!!!) which requires preparation is probably rolling their eyes at your comments, which are not helpful in any way whatsoever.

    Anyway OP, good luck with the new job. I used to be in IT and then started EFL (English as a Foreign Language) teaching, and the only times I did a full week of contact hours during summer schools it was all consuming. I'd also make your first job your priority, and I can't imagine there be a baby in the mix [immaculate conceptions not happening to me.. ;-) ]. Ooh, a house move too, what fun!!
    So, stop worrying about the matter so much! I was once complimented by a colleague on my ability to say 'no' to management when doing a relief social service type job. I said 'yes' when I could but my no was definitive. It may be a useful ability in teaching these days, depending on your SMT, so look on the current situation as good practise.:-)


  • nicechap
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    nicechap said:
    nicechap said:
    I don't think non-teachers realise that Sunday is a working day for teachers.  

    Probably because it isn't.  
    It was for my wife and she was a head of department. 

    People like ebsey  seem to make up unverifiable stories or quotes In order to put others down.
    A working day is a day where you are contracted to work, paid to work and expected to do so for a certain numbers of hours, often at a specified location.  If you don't do this, you can be disciplined for unauthorised absence. 

    That teachers usually do some of their work from home and outside of the hours that the children attend school, and sometimes they choose to do this on a Sunday, does not in any way make Sunday a working day for teachers. 
    You are wrong on so many levels.  Not every job has a machine that you clock in and out from.  Most teachers have a contract for a minimum number of hours per year, plus preparation & marking times, and in my experience do many many more hours on top.  Perhaps after lockdown you could visit the next NUT conference and tell the delegates they don't work on a Sunday and see how you get on.

    I'm sure lots of teachers do do some of their work on a Sunday. 

    But Sunday is not a working day for teachers in this country. 
    I'm only quoting your post so others can giggle at your last century mindset to the world of work.

    If you're not brave enough to go to the next NUT conference you can always set up a throw away email and contact their press office - other teaching unions are available if you prefer.  I'm going to leave you in your little cocoon of nonsense.
    Originally Posted by shortcrust
    "Contact the Ministry of Fairness....If sufficient evidence of unfairness is discovered you’ll get an apology, a permanent contract with backdated benefits, a ‘Let’s Make it Fair!’ tshirt and mug, and those guilty of unfairness will be sent on a Fairness Awareness course."
  • onwards&upwards
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    edited 21 August 2020 at 8:16PM
    nicechap said:
    nicechap said:
    nicechap said:
    I don't think non-teachers realise that Sunday is a working day for teachers.  

    Probably because it isn't.  
    It was for my wife and she was a head of department. 

    People like ebsey  seem to make up unverifiable stories or quotes In order to put others down.
    A working day is a day where you are contracted to work, paid to work and expected to do so for a certain numbers of hours, often at a specified location.  If you don't do this, you can be disciplined for unauthorised absence. 

    That teachers usually do some of their work from home and outside of the hours that the children attend school, and sometimes they choose to do this on a Sunday, does not in any way make Sunday a working day for teachers. 
    You are wrong on so many levels.  Not every job has a machine that you clock in and out from.  Most teachers have a contract for a minimum number of hours per year, plus preparation & marking times, and in my experience do many many more hours on top.  Perhaps after lockdown you could visit the next NUT conference and tell the delegates they don't work on a Sunday and see how you get on.

    I'm sure lots of teachers do do some of their work on a Sunday. 

    But Sunday is not a working day for teachers in this country. 
    I'm only quoting your post so others can giggle at your last century mindset to the world of work.

    If you're not brave enough to go to the next NUT conference you can always set up a throw away email and contact their press office - other teaching unions are available if you prefer.  I'm going to leave you in your little cocoon of nonsense.
    These overreactions are hilarious!  

    Look, we all know teachers work hard, we all know they have to take work home to do in their own time, but daft hyperbole like ‘Sunday is a working day for teachers’ just makes you look a bit silly.  I spent last Sunday socialising with a few teachers, and I know I can’t go and sit in the park for three hours at lunchtime on my working days, and neither can they!! 🤣🤣
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