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  • coastline
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    adindas said:
    csgohan4 said:
    Too late for Ant group, that volatility is not something I would want in my portfolio. Did flirt with the idea of Baba being so cheap when they were at 160. Glad I didn't
    If you do not want volatility the best thing is to invest in index fund
    For instance for US stocks and ADR, it is  S&P500. S&P 500 is the benchmark for the calculation of Beta Coefficient of individual stocks.
    For individual stock look for the stock which has  Beta Coefficient as close as 1.0.
    For some people, like Peter Lynch, acute traders volatility is their friends.
    Even with lump sums in an ISA or Sipp etc there's plenty of opportunities to buy and sell an index fund. SP 500 this year using the simple Stochastic method. Sell early January 4700. Buy at 4300 around Jan 24th. There's a huge spikey candle for a clue to a bottom , I've posted this before . Rally to 4500 Sell around Feb 14th. Buy at 4200 around Feb 24th. Now at 4600 and near overbought again. Let's see next week. ?

    $SPX | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    The likes of Greed and Fear index don't have any rules for a system just highlight sentiment. Look at the VIX chart and the Stochastic again. Exactly the opposite to what I've just posted on calling positions in the SP 500. 

    $VIX | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    At the end of the day what's changed. ? Still got a slowing economy . Still got inflation .Still got higher interest rates to come. Still got a crisis . Yet the market moves higher and has recovered , so far , half of the falls since December. So what's it really all about ? The long term trend is up especially over decades. The short is just a series of waves either daily, weekly or monthly. The media try to pin some news story to the moves but we've got a bit of froth off basically because it was frothy. So we see how it goes next week. Keep drip feeding monthly I say and look to the future. I Know nothing.
  • adindas
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    edited 19 March 2022 at 8:43PM
    coastline said:
    adindas said:
    csgohan4 said:
    Too late for Ant group, that volatility is not something I would want in my portfolio. Did flirt with the idea of Baba being so cheap when they were at 160. Glad I didn't
    If you do not want volatility the best thing is to invest in index fund
    For instance for US stocks and ADR, it is  S&P500. S&P 500 is the benchmark for the calculation of Beta Coefficient of individual stocks.
    For individual stock look for the stock which has  Beta Coefficient as close as 1.0.
    For some people, like Peter Lynch, acute traders volatility is their friends.
    Even with lump sums in an ISA or Sipp etc there's plenty of opportunities to buy and sell an index fund. SP 500 this year using the simple Stochastic method. Sell early January 4700. Buy at 4300 around Jan 24th. There's a huge spikey candle for a clue to a bottom , I've posted this before . Rally to 4500 Sell around Feb 14th. Buy at 4200 around Feb 24th. Now at 4600 and near overbought again. Let's see next week. ?

    $SPX | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    The likes of Greed and Fear index don't have any rules for a system just highlight sentiment. Look at the VIX chart and the Stochastic again. Exactly the opposite to what I've just posted on calling positions in the SP 500. 

    $VIX | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    At the end of the day what's changed. ? Still got a slowing economy . Still got inflation .Still got higher interest rates to come. Still got a crisis . Yet the market moves higher and has recovered , so far , half of the falls since December. So what's it really all about ? The long term trend is up especially over decades. The short is just a series of waves either daily, weekly or monthly. The media try to pin some news story to the moves but we've got a bit of froth off basically because it was frothy. So we see how it goes next week. Keep drip feeding monthly I say and look to the future. I Know nothing.
    It makes a signifiant difference in the bear market especially for high growth stocks or a fund with concentration in high growth stocks. Also I never say that Fear and Greed Index, the VIX is 100% accurate.If there is such kind of magic tools everyone could become a multi millionaires in less than a year.
    Fear and Greed Index, the VIX is just to scan the global environment, the mood in the stock market. Although is is relevant to high growth stocks, it is less accurate to Fund, individual Stocks, etc.
    For individual stock and Funds in question of course it is better to use technical analysis, analysing real time direct price/volume action using Technical Indicators such as RSI, Stochastic, MACD, Bollinger Band, Moving Average, ADX indicators as shown in Graph No1. But keep in mind technical analysis although it is the trader daily tool, interpreting it will need good technical skills and it is very easy to misinterpret it. The fast Traders in CNBC are using the S&P Short-Range Oscillator which could only be acquired on subscription basis.
    In your examples of S&P you are talking about throwing lump sump. The purpose of DCA, drip feeding is to spread the risk over a few days/weeks to avoid making a significant loss when you get it wrong. It is useful for people who do not want to learn trading, technical analysis price/volume action.
    In the bear market, the price of the funds/stocks tend to move zigzag within a channel. It is going up a little bit for a few days and then suddenly leg drop further down reaching a new low consolidating around this area.
    If you are selective drip feeding in this bear market you will be better than people who blindly throwing their money into the den even the price is at the high swing. In the following week drop again to a new low and swallow all of your money you just throw.
    In the bull market even a monkey will always make money in the long run by blindly throwing their money to a fund which has a history of always go up in the bull market in the long run.

  • Apologies - this link was given way back in this to thread. Would anyone know of a similar alternative (the one below doesn't seem to be available on iWeb).

    https://www.ishares.com/ch/institutional/en/products/307130/ishares-electric-vehicles-and-driving-technology-ucits-etf-usd-acc-fund

    Thanks
  • coastline said:
    adindas said:
    csgohan4 said:
    Too late for Ant group, that volatility is not something I would want in my portfolio. Did flirt with the idea of Baba being so cheap when they were at 160. Glad I didn't
    If you do not want volatility the best thing is to invest in index fund
    For instance for US stocks and ADR, it is  S&P500. S&P 500 is the benchmark for the calculation of Beta Coefficient of individual stocks.
    For individual stock look for the stock which has  Beta Coefficient as close as 1.0.
    For some people, like Peter Lynch, acute traders volatility is their friends.
    Even with lump sums in an ISA or Sipp etc there's plenty of opportunities to buy and sell an index fund. SP 500 this year using the simple Stochastic method. Sell early January 4700. Buy at 4300 around Jan 24th. There's a huge spikey candle for a clue to a bottom , I've posted this before . Rally to 4500 Sell around Feb 14th. Buy at 4200 around Feb 24th. Now at 4600 and near overbought again. Let's see next week. ?

    $SPX | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    The likes of Greed and Fear index don't have any rules for a system just highlight sentiment. Look at the VIX chart and the Stochastic again. Exactly the opposite to what I've just posted on calling positions in the SP 500. 

    $VIX | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    At the end of the day what's changed. ? Still got a slowing economy . Still got inflation .Still got higher interest rates to come. Still got a crisis . Yet the market moves higher and has recovered , so far , half of the falls since December. So what's it really all about ? The long term trend is up especially over decades. The short is just a series of waves either daily, weekly or monthly. The media try to pin some news story to the moves but we've got a bit of froth off basically because it was frothy. So we see how it goes next week. Keep drip feeding monthly I say and look to the future. I Know nothing.
    Just on this Stochastic trading formula/method, presumably this just works with individual stocks, or can it be applied to ETFs, it's, oeics?
    Thanks
  • adindas
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    edited 19 March 2022 at 5:56PM
    Apologies - this link was given way back in this to thread. Would anyone know of a similar alternative (the one below doesn't seem to be available on iWeb).

    https://www.ishares.com/ch/institutional/en/products/307130/ishares-electric-vehicles-and-driving-technology-ucits-etf-usd-acc-fund

    Thanks
    Two of the most commonly quoted:
    IDRV - iShares Self-driving EV & Tech ETF
    DRIV - Global X Autonomous & Electric Vehicles ETF Fund
    Also this one
    FDRV - Fidelity Electric Vehicles and Future Transportation ETF

    CARZ - First Trust NASDAQ Global Auto Index Fund (This one Include Semi Conductor and Technologies)

    I have no holdings on either of this ETF so have not  idea of their performance.

  • coastline said:
    adindas said:
    csgohan4 said:
    Too late for Ant group, that volatility is not something I would want in my portfolio. Did flirt with the idea of Baba being so cheap when they were at 160. Glad I didn't
    If you do not want volatility the best thing is to invest in index fund
    For instance for US stocks and ADR, it is  S&P500. S&P 500 is the benchmark for the calculation of Beta Coefficient of individual stocks.
    For individual stock look for the stock which has  Beta Coefficient as close as 1.0.
    For some people, like Peter Lynch, acute traders volatility is their friends.
    Even with lump sums in an ISA or Sipp etc there's plenty of opportunities to buy and sell an index fund. SP 500 this year using the simple Stochastic method. Sell early January 4700. Buy at 4300 around Jan 24th. There's a huge spikey candle for a clue to a bottom , I've posted this before . Rally to 4500 Sell around Feb 14th. Buy at 4200 around Feb 24th. Now at 4600 and near overbought again. Let's see next week. ?

    $SPX | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    The likes of Greed and Fear index don't have any rules for a system just highlight sentiment. Look at the VIX chart and the Stochastic again. Exactly the opposite to what I've just posted on calling positions in the SP 500. 

    $VIX | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    At the end of the day what's changed. ? Still got a slowing economy . Still got inflation .Still got higher interest rates to come. Still got a crisis . Yet the market moves higher and has recovered , so far , half of the falls since December. So what's it really all about ? The long term trend is up especially over decades. The short is just a series of waves either daily, weekly or monthly. The media try to pin some news story to the moves but we've got a bit of froth off basically because it was frothy. So we see how it goes next week. Keep drip feeding monthly I say and look to the future. I Know nothing.
    Just on this Stochastic trading formula/method, presumably this just works with individual stocks, or can it be applied to ETFs, it's, oeics?
    Thanks

    ...just looking at various apps that seem to do this sort of thing. Wondered if anyone had any experience of / recommendations for these.

    Thanks.


  • adindas said:
    Apologies - this link was given way back in this to thread. Would anyone know of a similar alternative (the one below doesn't seem to be available on iWeb).

    https://www.ishares.com/ch/institutional/en/products/307130/ishares-electric-vehicles-and-driving-technology-ucits-etf-usd-acc-fund

    Thanks
    Two of the most commonly quoted:
    IDRV - iShares Self-driving EV & Tech ETF
    DRIV - Global X Autonomous & Electric Vehicles ETF Fund

    Also this one
    FDRV - Fidelity Electric Vehicles and Future Transportation ETF

    CARZ - First Trust NASDAQ Global Auto Index Fund (This one Include Semi Conductor and Technologies)

    I have no holdings on either of this ETF so have not  idea of their performance.






    Thanks.
    IWeb don't seem to do any of these. Might choose one then see if they'll do it.
    Thanks
  • coastline
    coastline Posts: 1,662 Forumite
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    edited 21 March 2022 at 12:02PM
    coastline said:
    adindas said:
    csgohan4 said:
    Too late for Ant group, that volatility is not something I would want in my portfolio. Did flirt with the idea of Baba being so cheap when they were at 160. Glad I didn't
    If you do not want volatility the best thing is to invest in index fund
    For instance for US stocks and ADR, it is  S&P500. S&P 500 is the benchmark for the calculation of Beta Coefficient of individual stocks.
    For individual stock look for the stock which has  Beta Coefficient as close as 1.0.
    For some people, like Peter Lynch, acute traders volatility is their friends.
    Even with lump sums in an ISA or Sipp etc there's plenty of opportunities to buy and sell an index fund. SP 500 this year using the simple Stochastic method. Sell early January 4700. Buy at 4300 around Jan 24th. There's a huge spikey candle for a clue to a bottom , I've posted this before . Rally to 4500 Sell around Feb 14th. Buy at 4200 around Feb 24th. Now at 4600 and near overbought again. Let's see next week. ?

    $SPX | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    The likes of Greed and Fear index don't have any rules for a system just highlight sentiment. Look at the VIX chart and the Stochastic again. Exactly the opposite to what I've just posted on calling positions in the SP 500. 

    $VIX | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    At the end of the day what's changed. ? Still got a slowing economy . Still got inflation .Still got higher interest rates to come. Still got a crisis . Yet the market moves higher and has recovered , so far , half of the falls since December. So what's it really all about ? The long term trend is up especially over decades. The short is just a series of waves either daily, weekly or monthly. The media try to pin some news story to the moves but we've got a bit of froth off basically because it was frothy. So we see how it goes next week. Keep drip feeding monthly I say and look to the future. I Know nothing.
    Just on this Stochastic trading formula/method, presumably this just works with individual stocks, or can it be applied to ETFs, it's, oeics?
    Thanks
    I'm not recommending it and never would . It's what I do and it takes years to understand a get a feel for the markets. Most will say it doesn't work but they've never tried . If you're really interested study it for a few years instead. You are trying to time the markets and it goes against the grain.
    I use ETF's which track the indices such as FTSE 100 ISF.L and global trackers such as VWRL.L . Not funds.
    Investors Chronicle or FTimes have a simple charting package which is clear to understand. TradingView is another. I don't use apps.
    Set up Stochastic , Williams%R and RSI on here from the lower indicators. Study it for a while and relax .

    FTSE 100 Index chart, prices and performance - Investors Chronicle

    Some reading here. Nothing works all the time but the extremes can indicate entry and exit points. 

    The Stochastic Oscillator: The Best Momentum Indicator? (chartlearning.com)

    The Truth About Technical Indicators: The Good, And The Bad (chartlearning.com)

    The MACD: The Perfect All In One Indicator? (chartlearning.com)

    Unlocking the Power Of The Relative Strength Indicator (chartlearning.com)
  • coastline said:
    coastline said:
    adindas said:
    csgohan4 said:
    Too late for Ant group, that volatility is not something I would want in my portfolio. Did flirt with the idea of Baba being so cheap when they were at 160. Glad I didn't
    If you do not want volatility the best thing is to invest in index fund
    For instance for US stocks and ADR, it is  S&P500. S&P 500 is the benchmark for the calculation of Beta Coefficient of individual stocks.
    For individual stock look for the stock which has  Beta Coefficient as close as 1.0.
    For some people, like Peter Lynch, acute traders volatility is their friends.
    Even with lump sums in an ISA or Sipp etc there's plenty of opportunities to buy and sell an index fund. SP 500 this year using the simple Stochastic method. Sell early January 4700. Buy at 4300 around Jan 24th. There's a huge spikey candle for a clue to a bottom , I've posted this before . Rally to 4500 Sell around Feb 14th. Buy at 4200 around Feb 24th. Now at 4600 and near overbought again. Let's see next week. ?

    $SPX | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    The likes of Greed and Fear index don't have any rules for a system just highlight sentiment. Look at the VIX chart and the Stochastic again. Exactly the opposite to what I've just posted on calling positions in the SP 500. 

    $VIX | SharpChart | StockCharts.com

    At the end of the day what's changed. ? Still got a slowing economy . Still got inflation .Still got higher interest rates to come. Still got a crisis . Yet the market moves higher and has recovered , so far , half of the falls since December. So what's it really all about ? The long term trend is up especially over decades. The short is just a series of waves either daily, weekly or monthly. The media try to pin some news story to the moves but we've got a bit of froth off basically because it was frothy. So we see how it goes next week. Keep drip feeding monthly I say and look to the future. I Know nothing.
    Just on this Stochastic trading formula/method, presumably this just works with individual stocks, or can it be applied to ETFs, it's, oeics?
    Thanks
    I'm not recommending it and never would . It's what I do and it takes years to understand a get a feel for the markets. Most will say it doesn't work but they've never tried . If you're really interested study it for a few years instead. You are trying to time the markets and it goes against the grain.
    I use ETF's which track the indices such as FTSE 100 ISF.L and global trackers such as VWRL.L . Not funds.
    Investors Chronicle or FTimes have a simple charting package which is clear to understand. TradingView is another. I don't use apps.
    Set up Stochastic and Williams%R on here from the lower indicators. Study it for a while and relax .

    FTSE 100 Index chart, prices and performance - Investors Chronicle
    Thanks, coastline.
  • masonic
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    adindas said:
    Apologies - this link was given way back in this to thread. Would anyone know of a similar alternative (the one below doesn't seem to be available on iWeb).

    https://www.ishares.com/ch/institutional/en/products/307130/ishares-electric-vehicles-and-driving-technology-ucits-etf-usd-acc-fund

    Thanks
    Two of the most commonly quoted:
    IDRV - iShares Self-driving EV & Tech ETF
    DRIV - Global X Autonomous & Electric Vehicles ETF Fund

    Also this one
    FDRV - Fidelity Electric Vehicles and Future Transportation ETF

    CARZ - First Trust NASDAQ Global Auto Index Fund (This one Include Semi Conductor and Technologies)

    I have no holdings on either of this ETF so have not  idea of their performance.

    Thanks.
    IWeb don't seem to do any of these. Might choose one then see if they'll do it.
    Thanks
    iWeb is one of the worst places for availability of unusual/new ETFs. They seem to make a meal of compliance checks and often reject investments that other platforms are happy to make available.
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