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  • Steve182
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    edited 2 March 2022 at 11:23PM
    Ciprico said:
    Gazprom....?

    Evraz...?

    A friend of mine suggested that was a good price when it went down to 300, I bought Metro Bank instead. Fingers crossed  :)
    Evraz was £3 as recently as 2 weeks ago. Now 60p. At around that time I remember telling a friend I was about 70% certain Putin would invade. 

    Given my near certainty of what would come next (militarily at least) I wish I'd had the foresight to short Russian owned companies.

    I also wish I'd sold my modest holding of FXPO, a swiss company operating an iron ore mine in Ukraine, but having lost so much already at that point I thought I'd hope for the best and try to ride it out. It's held up a lot better than shares in Russian companies though, which to me have been uninvestible on moral grounds since 2014.
    “Like a bunch of cod fishermen after all the cod’s been overfished, they don’t catch a lot of cod, but they keep on fishing in the same waters. That’s what’s happened to all these value investors. Maybe they should move to where the fish are.”   Charlie Munger, vice chairman, Berkshire Hathaway
  • Thrugelmir
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    edited 2 March 2022 at 11:37PM
    Steve182 said:
    Ciprico said:
    Gazprom....?

    Evraz...?

    A friend of mine suggested that was a good price when it went down to 300, I bought Metro Bank instead. Fingers crossed  :)
     It's held up a lot better than shares in Russian companies though, which to me have been uninvestible on moral grounds since 2014.
    No one cared previously about global multinationals making money from Russian operations. Thereby funding the corrupt bureaucracy that exists. Also another global supply chain vunerability laid bare after the impact of the pandemic. Similar complancey exists with regards to China. Which has it's own agendas. 
  • hoofy
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    edited 3 March 2022 at 10:37AM
    Old_Lifer said:
    DKL planned the cashew expansion and did the sums long before the pandemic.   

    DKL operates in Ivory Coast where modern infrastructure is a major advantage.    The largest port in W. Africa is in Ivory Coast (Abidjan), just two hours away from the Palm Oil operation.    DKL's cashew processing is automated, so while it will provide local jobs there is no large workforce and no large labour costs.

    Another company in which I am invested expects shipping capacity to be more or less back to normal around the end of the year.
    Any idea why it's jumped 20% this morning? Obviously due to the situation in Ukraine, but why today?

    EDIT. Sorry, I missed the last few posts and jumped straight in.
  • Thrugelmir
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    Polymetal 307p? 

    Being kicked out the FTSE100 will force tracker funds to disinvest.  Potential bounce back play. If you've nerves of steel. 
    Perhaps not. Now 216p
  • adindas
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    edited 3 March 2022 at 12:15PM
    Steve182 said:
    Ciprico said:
    Gazprom....?

    Evraz...?

    A friend of mine suggested that was a good price when it went down to 300, I bought Metro Bank instead. Fingers crossed  :)
    Evraz was £3 as recently as 2 weeks ago. Now 60p. At around that time I remember telling a friend I was about 70% certain Putin would invade. 

    Given my near certainty of what would come next (militarily at least) I wish I'd had the foresight to short Russian owned companies.

    I just skim the info (have not done a dip digger). It seems Evraz is a very solid company, thus a very good Investment.:
    - P/E Ratio 0.46 (Steel Industry Average is around 27),
    - P/S Ratio is 0.09 (Steel Industry Average is around 28)
    - P/B Ratio 0.67 (Lower Than 1)
    - Dividend : It is currently paying 50.32% (Madness how could they effort that ??)
    -  Analysts Price Target is GBX650 (so potentially 8x-9x)
    - Currently in a very dip value territory
    - Their operation is not just in Russia but around the world : EVRAZ plc, together with its subsidiaries, produces and distributes steel and related products in Russia, the Americas, Asia, Europe, CIS, Africa, and internationally
    I do not have any intention to calculate myself, as it takes a lot of times but I will try to find out their Piotroski F-Score, Altman Z-Score, Beneish M-score if I could and posr ir here if I could find it.
    I am aware they might be dropped from FTSE 100 which is the concern. Also some people do not like it as their operation is in Russia. Is there any other point that would make it this is not a good investment ??


  • adindas
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    edited 3 March 2022 at 12:15PM
    Polymetal 307p? 

    Being kicked out the FTSE100 will force tracker funds to disinvest.  Potential bounce back play. If you've nerves of steel. 
    Perhaps not. Now 216p

    I just skim this one as well (have not done a dip digger). It seems POLY.L  is a very solid company, thus a very good Investment as well:
    - P/E Ratio 1.23 (Steel Industry Average is around 27),
    - P/S Ratio is 0.34 (Steel Industry Average is around 28).
    - P/B Ratio 0.51 (lower than 1)
    - Dividend : It is currently paying 37.06% (Again madness how could they effort that ??)
    -  Analysts Price Target is GBX1604 (so potentially 7x-8x)
    - Currently in a very dip value territory
    - Their operation is not just in Russia but Internationally as a precious metals mining company in Russia, Kazakhstan, East Asia, and Europe.
    I do not have any intention to calculate myself, as it takes a lot of times but I will try to find out their Piotroski F-Score, Altman Z-Score, Beneish M-score if I could and posr ir here if I could find it.
    I am aware they might be dropped from FTSE 100 which is the concern. Also some people do not like it as their operation is in Russia. Is there any other point that would make it this is not a good investment ??




  • Thrugelmir
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    adindas said:
    Polymetal 307p? 

    Being kicked out the FTSE100 will force tracker funds to disinvest.  Potential bounce back play. If you've nerves of steel. 
    Perhaps not. Now 216p


    - Dividend : It is currently paying 37.06% (Again madness how could they effort that ??)

    The yield is only a reflection of the fall in the share price. The company is still operating as normal.  The issue is whether the Company will be physically be able to pay the dividend declared yesterday. 
  • sevenhills
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    adindas said:

    Also some people do not like it as their operation is in Russia. Is there any other point that would make it this is not a good investment ??

    If the invasion ended today, it would be a good buy, even if that happened, who knows how long sanctions would be in place.

  • adindas
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    edited 3 March 2022 at 2:50PM
    The FED is highly likely to do a "dovish" action. Instead of rising the interest rate by 0.5% in March. The most likely possibility is 0.25%
    "Powell would propose a quarter-percentage-point interest-rate increase at the central bank’s meeting in two weeks amid high inflation, strong economic demand and a tight labour market."
  • Thrugelmir
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    edited 3 March 2022 at 3:19PM
    adindas said:

    Also some people do not like it as their operation is in Russia. Is there any other point that would make it this is not a good investment ??

    If the invasion ended today, it would be a good buy, even if that happened, who knows how long sanctions would be in place.

    The invasion won't cease until Putin achieves his objectives. Connecting Russia to the Crimea with a land corridor seems part of the overall plan. 
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