CST letters' forum group thread

beamerguy

MancLad11 said:

jules2021 said:

Hi, I'm about 2 months ahead of you-Euro Car Parks too. I sent a SAR by email and received the response by post just under a month later. Haven't had any reply to my CST law email, I was hoping that would be the case as according to this forum they don't usually reply (for single tickets anyway) and hopefully that's the end of it. 

Just a point about the SAR for the others on here-we know they're sharing data now as CST are being instructed by ECP these days not DRP, it does mention in the SAR that they may share your data with others, apparently it says it on their signs. I can only assume it's in the tiny red writing at the bottom which I can't read on any of their copies and am not about to go to any of their car parks (ever again!) It probably doesn't matter but I just thought I'd mention the whole data sharing issue, I guess they are "allowed" to do that, especially if it's stated on their signs?

I have just got back my SAR from Euro Car Parks, Not heard anything back from CST Law, nothing new there. Not sure what the next stage is now. Like you said hopefully thats the end of it.  

The question is ... will CST reply ?   they do have a severe communication problem and they do pick up the dregs in the parking industry.  The actual number of real claims from CST you can count on one hand and when they get to court, a spanking awaits.

CST are well out of their depth in the parking scam and should concentrate on chasing old gas bills etc

D_P_Dance

They have added an unlawful £60, read this,

Excel v Wilkinson

At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V Excel v Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0

and complain to your MP.

jules2021

JMichael89 said:

Hi there,

I am not very good with the whole IT and computer stuff.

I have attached a copy of the letter I have received.

Although I have read most of this thread I am still confused on what to send and how to send it.

There is no email for CST Law or EuroCarPark ltd, do i have to do it by post? would anyone be able to help please!

Thanks very much in advance. Sorry!

Hi you can do it all by email that's what I did-there are about 3 different emails knocking about somewhere on this thread for CST law, have another look through you should come across them. I used a couple to make sure they definitely got it, don't think it matters which one you use.

Email your SAR to DPO@eurocarparks.com

jules2021

MancLad11 said:

I have just got back my SAR from Euro Car Parks, Not heard anything back from CST Law, nothing new there. Not sure what the next stage is now. Like you said hopefully thats the end of it.  

Yeh I'm just waiting to see if I hear anything back from CST law, will post if I do. If they reply I think there will be quite a bit more reading up to do about what the next stage is so really hoping it doesn't get to that and they have given up now-it's usually the case from what I can gather on here, but with my luck who knows lol. Nothing else to do now but wait I think and do what Coupon-mad suggests regarding the government policy.

beamerguy

jules2021 said:

MancLad11 said:

I have just got back my SAR from Euro Car Parks, Not heard anything back from CST Law, nothing new there. Not sure what the next stage is now. Like you said hopefully thats the end of it.  

Yeh I'm just waiting to see if I hear anything back from CST law, will post if I do. If they reply I think there will be quite a bit more reading up to do about what the next stage is so really hoping it doesn't get to that and they have given up now-it's usually the case from what I can gather on here, but with my luck who knows lol. Nothing else to do now but wait I think and do what Coupon-mad suggests regarding the government policy.

Look Jules, CST has mads a statement of fact ..... the parking ticket is £160 ????

Next step is a court claim which has to explain the claim and then be signed by CST as a statement of truth.

So, you have a letter before claim which is a lie ... no such product as a £160 parking ticket.

If CST follow this through, how will they explain the fake £60, they think it is the parking charge, wonder what a statement of truth will say.

This is a legal who are so out of touch with reality it has become a joke.  

Just wait to see what rubbish they come up with next. Then it's up to judge to decide on which lie he will dismiss the case ... OH, donn't forget your costs.

In the meantime, no harm in complaining to the SRA for a fake claim

Lajo90

  Hi All
I have received a letter before claim as attached. There is no email address and it's asking me to submit a form.

I've been reading through the chain but I'm still very confused on what I have to do. So I send a SAR to euro car parks? And then what exactly do I write to CST? Also once both have come back to me what are the next steps, does this still go to court? Any help would be appreciated. 

Le_Kirk

Did you miss the NEWBIE sticky second post that tells you all that you have to do once you receive this letter before/of claim?  It also tells you what not to do, i.e. you do not fill in their forms and you certainly do not divulge financial information.

Coupon-mad

Just read the LBC stage in NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST, because you are not filling in any ‘debt’’ forms.

Timeouts

Lajo90 said:

  Hi All
I have received a letter before claim as attached. There is no email address and it's asking me to submit a form.

I've been reading through the chain but I'm still very confused on what I have to do. So I send a SAR to euro car parks? And then what exactly do I write to CST? Also once both have come back to me what are the next steps, does this still go to court? Any help would be appreciated. 

As you can see on this thread, CST constantly fail to get it right

They are saying you failed to pay and go on to say THE CHARGE is £170 ???

No parking ticket is £170 ???? CST have a way with words that makes their claim nonsensical

We know they have added a fake £70 which they cannot explain ?

So, you must reply saying two things

1: You deny any debt
2: You require their legal authority to add an unknown amount of £70

They have no legal excuse to add fake amounts.  They may attempt a feeble excuse that it is debt collector charges. Euro use DRP as a debt collector.  The feeble excuse is blown out the water when you read this thread

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6280159/debt-recovery-plus-and-trace-advertise-no-win-no-fee-to-parking-firms#latest

So, what will CST reply with, there is nothing they can substantiate for the fake £70

THIS IS A FAKE CLAIM.   We also know that CST are currently being investigated by the SRA

D_P_Dance

They have added an added an additional  £70 which is highly likely to be unlawful, read this and complain to your MP

Excel v Wilkinson

At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V Excel v Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0