Dacia Service Query

fred246

When I go on an aeroplane there are two things that re-assure me about my safety. One is that aeroplanes are VERY expensive and even if the airline isn't bothered about my safety they wouldn't want to lose an aeroplane. The other is that the driver in charge of the aeroplane is also in it. So if it crashes he will probably die too. After I have worked on a car my family and I all get in it and go at 70mph on the motorway. I would say that I am far more interested in getting the job done correctly than the mechanic in the garage who has no idea who owns the car, who doesn't really want to be there and the worst that can happen is he will lose a job that he doesn't really like anyway. I can find very little reference to either DIY or garage mechanics being jailed. There was the tipper truck one where a haulage company mechanic went to jail. How many DIY mechanics have been jailed?

452

red_eye said:

fred246 said:

A stamp might prove that you have taken a car to a garage for a service but it wouldn't prove that anything had actually been done. I wouldn't take breakdown cover out if it said you have to have stamps in a book. I don't get involved with garages because I don't use them. I only take it for an annual MOT. I pay a bit more than I should but I know them and he does an MOT without obviously damaging my car.

Same as your fist full of parts invoices they don’t prove the car was serviced.
mot testers have to use vosa approved tools and procedure and none of the tools or the inspection can damage your car.

Point is you cause an accident and it was down to lack of or incorrectly service you can’t produce parts invoice in a court and say you serviced the car as it’ll be on you and you can’t use your 70% of garages cannot service a car as 100% of you can not service a car to standard.
produce a service sheet and it’ll be on the garage that serviced your car.
Leaving you a free man.

You can't be prosecuted for lack of servicing the car following an accident. The car either had a defect the contributed to the accident or it didn't it's that simple service history is irrelevant.

motorguy

mcpitman said:

fred246 said:

#1 - A stamp in the book would mean it had a 30% chance of being serviced correctly. 

#2 - It would be up to them to disprove it. 

Point 1 - Only you believe your own nonsense, no evidence has been provided for your spurious claims apart from links to a different web page from 15 years ago.

Point 2 - It would definitely be your job to prove it had been serviced to the manufacturer specification and method if you wanted any form of goodwill or warranty cover from them. Neither of which you can do unless you are a fully qualified mechanic.

And neither referenced 70%

motorguy

fred246 said:

A stamp might prove that you have taken a car to a garage for a service but it wouldn't prove that anything had actually been done. I wouldn't take breakdown cover out if it said you have to have stamps in a book. I don't get involved with garages because I don't use them. I only take it for an annual MOT. I pay a bit more than I should but I know them and he does an MOT without obviously damaging my car.

When was that the case?  The 1970s?

deanos

My Kia only has a oil change on every odd service , small service last year was £54 , big one this year was £329 

oldagetraveller1

"When I go on an aeroplane there are two things that re-assure me about my safety."

1. That it hasn't been serviced/repaired/maintained by an unqualified DIYer!

2. Him/her upfront know what they are doing.

RichardD1970

wymondham said:

Hi All
I have a 2019 Dacia Duster and its just had its first service at the dealer garage. The service interval is 12months or 18k miles (whichever sooner) - its a 1.3 petrol engine. I was surprised at the low cost of the service considering its the cars first one, but even more surprised that the oil isn't changed on an 'A' service.... have things moved on as I would 100% expect the oil to be changed on a cars first service...??

Bet you wished you'd never asked now 

red_eye

452 said:

red_eye said:

fred246 said:

A stamp might prove that you have taken a car to a garage for a service but it wouldn't prove that anything had actually been done. I wouldn't take breakdown cover out if it said you have to have stamps in a book. I don't get involved with garages because I don't use them. I only take it for an annual MOT. I pay a bit more than I should but I know them and he does an MOT without obviously damaging my car.

Same as your fist full of parts invoices they don’t prove the car was serviced.
mot testers have to use vosa approved tools and procedure and none of the tools or the inspection can damage your car.

Point is you cause an accident and it was down to lack of or incorrectly service you can’t produce parts invoice in a court and say you serviced the car as it’ll be on you and you can’t use your 70% of garages cannot service a car as 100% of you can not service a car to standard.
produce a service sheet and it’ll be on the garage that serviced your car.
Leaving you a free man.

You can't be prosecuted for lack of servicing the car following an accident. The car either had a defect the contributed to the accident or it didn't it's that simple service history is irrelevant.

But having a serious safety defect that would have been spotted in a service carried out by someone who knows what they are doing and owner notified would have. After all that’s what the inspection part of a service is. 

Like I asked how would fred find, diagnose and rectify a brake not working, this could contribute to an accident his invoice for oil and filters will not help.
lack of knowledge and understanding lead to the car being used in an unroadworthy condition you’ll also find that your insurance will be void as it is unroadworthy.

fred246

oldagetraveller1 said:

"When I go on an aeroplane there are two things that re-assure me about my safety."

1. That it hasn't been serviced/repaired/maintained by an unqualified DIYer!

2. Him/her upfront know what they are doing.

You'll be glad to know you have to be qualified to service or drive aeroplanes. Unfortunately no such qualification is required to work on a car. The aviation industry is highly regulated. The motor vehicle service and repair industry is totally unregulated.

Mercdriver

fred246 said:

oldagetraveller1 said:

"When I go on an aeroplane there are two things that re-assure me about my safety."

1. That it hasn't been serviced/repaired/maintained by an unqualified DIYer!

2. Him/her upfront know what they are doing.

You'll be glad to know you have to be qualified to service or drive aeroplanes. Unfortunately no such qualification is required to work on a car. The aviation industry is highly regulated. The motor vehicle service and repair industry is totally unregulated.

Can you start evidencing things.  Why not take a secret hidden camera and try getting a job as a mechanic at a dealer with no qualifications and then share the evidence?