All inclusive drinks limit in Magaluf

NoodleDoodleMan

Going by the information available online from informed sources then AI hotels in the relevant zones are included in the new restrictions.

Therefore you really need to challenge your holiday provider (by 'phone if possible, better still face to face if they have a High Street presence) with these sources and robustly "suggest" their advice needs confirmation.

Simon Calder is a reliable source - https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/mallorca-ibiza-alcohol-drink-booze-cruise-pub-crawl-ban-a9289036.html

This paragraph might be the "get out of jail" card for holiday providers, in which case it's good news for your party.

"Bar promotions that offer unlimited alcohol for a fixed price are also ruled unlawful. But if tour operators have already signed contracts for all-inclusive deals with hotels, they will be allowed to continue."

Lushlis2

Perhaps that’s why they were so adamant that the law wouldn’t effect my holiday 

Shelldean

peachyprice said:

k4ren2006 said:

What I can't figure out with these new rules is  how will they stop people from getting drunk in their room..ie buy booze in the supermarkets.  

Maybe that's what the 'crackdown on balconying' means in Pollycat's post?
No balconing is where idiots jump off balcony into pool or climb along them to access other rooms.
Often done by young holiday makers who've had a skinful!!

Lushlis2

"Bar promotions that offer unlimited alcohol for a fixed price are also ruled unlawful. But if tour operators have already signed contracts for all-inclusive deals with hotels, they will be allowed to continue
Maybe this could be the case as I’ve spoken to OTB again and they are very adamant that this law isn’t going to affect the AI 

Pollycat

Lushlis2 said:

Pollycat said: you 

Lushlis2 said:

Pollycat said:

Lushlis2 said:

photome said:

Does it mention unlimited alcoholic drinks included in the brochure, if it doesnt then you are still getting what you paid for

It says AI alcoholic drinks served from 11am til 8pm. No mentions of a 6 drink limit. 

My holiday provider has also told me that this law would’nt effect my holiday either 

Hmmm.

I guess they might say they are providing what they say they are as you can have your 6 drinks anytime between 11am and 8pm...? Slippery buggers, these holiday companies.

Which holiday company have you booked with and what is the hotel?

Have you done as requested by the hotel and sent them the email you had from the holiday company?

Do we know when this law is being implemented?

As you are not going until September, I guess there will be more publicity about this before you go.

Or are you considering cancelling and rebooking somewhere else?

It doesn’t say anywhere about a 6 drink limit though. It say AI drinks from 11am til 8am. And If this in fact does come into effect then I’ve been lied to by the holiday company. 

I’ve booked with On the beach and at Bh Mallorca (and before anyone says anything about it being a party hotel) I haven’t gone for that reason...yeh I like a nice pool party with a DJ but I’m not one of these rowdy teenagers, hence why I’ve opted to go in September when the customer is slightly older, I just liked the suites and the gym (yes I’m one of these sad holiday gym goers before I get jumped on) ha! 

Yes I’ve forwarded them the email but I’ve not heard anything back since. 

I’ve read that the council have a meeting at the start of next month with the hoteliers so I’m guessing that something will be agreed then. 

I’m not sure as I really want to stop in this hotel. I think really they should be altering the price of all AI hotels that have been booked if this is coming into effect. 

Re the bit in bold:
I'm not sure how you'd stand with this legally as the information provided to you by OTB was actually true at the time of booking.

I reply to your response when I emailed to ask them about this law that’s possibly being enforced I asked them if this AI 6 drink limit would apply to my AI holiday that I’d already booked and they replied that this law does not apply to AI holidays the new law is in regards to organised bar crawls and happy hours within resort bars and not to AI hotels. But people have been replying to this saying how can OTB say this as it’s a law set by the council so if that’s the case then they’ve lied if in fact the law does effect by AI holiday. 

I was also reading on another website that someone who has booked a holiday that has been significantly changed can get a full cancellation on the holiday. Wouldn’t not receiving what was advertised at the time of booking be a significant change to a holiday? 

I thought you were talking about what was advertised when you booked. Not the answer you got from OTB when you became aware of the law change.
Noodledoodleman's reply may be helpful.
Personally, in cases like this, I'd rather have a booking with TUI or Jet2 than a 3rd party like OTB as they'll have more clout.

Lushlis2

Pollycat said:

Lushlis2 said:

Pollycat said: you 

Lushlis2 said:

Pollycat said:

Lushlis2 said:

photome said:

Does it mention unlimited alcoholic drinks included in the brochure, if it doesnt then you are still getting what you paid for

It says AI alcoholic drinks served from 11am til 8pm. No mentions of a 6 drink limit. 

My holiday provider has also told me that this law would’nt effect my holiday either 

Hmmm.

I guess they might say they are providing what they say they are as you can have your 6 drinks anytime between 11am and 8pm...? Slippery buggers, these holiday companies.

Which holiday company have you booked with and what is the hotel?

Have you done as requested by the hotel and sent them the email you had from the holiday company?

Do we know when this law is being implemented?

As you are not going until September, I guess there will be more publicity about this before you go.

Or are you considering cancelling and rebooking somewhere else?

It doesn’t say anywhere about a 6 drink limit though. It say AI drinks from 11am til 8am. And If this in fact does come into effect then I’ve been lied to by the holiday company. 

I’ve booked with On the beach and at Bh Mallorca (and before anyone says anything about it being a party hotel) I haven’t gone for that reason...yeh I like a nice pool party with a DJ but I’m not one of these rowdy teenagers, hence why I’ve opted to go in September when the customer is slightly older, I just liked the suites and the gym (yes I’m one of these sad holiday gym goers before I get jumped on) ha! 

Yes I’ve forwarded them the email but I’ve not heard anything back since. 

I’ve read that the council have a meeting at the start of next month with the hoteliers so I’m guessing that something will be agreed then. 

I’m not sure as I really want to stop in this hotel. I think really they should be altering the price of all AI hotels that have been booked if this is coming into effect. 

Re the bit in bold:
I'm not sure how you'd stand with this legally as the information provided to you by OTB was actually true at the time of booking.

I reply to your response when I emailed to ask them about this law that’s possibly being enforced I asked them if this AI 6 drink limit would apply to my AI holiday that I’d already booked and they replied that this law does not apply to AI holidays the new law is in regards to organised bar crawls and happy hours within resort bars and not to AI hotels. But people have been replying to this saying how can OTB say this as it’s a law set by the council so if that’s the case then they’ve lied if in fact the law does effect by AI holiday. 

I was also reading on another website that someone who has booked a holiday that has been significantly changed can get a full cancellation on the holiday. Wouldn’t not receiving what was advertised at the time of booking be a significant change to a holiday? 

I thought you were talking about what was advertised when you booked. Not the answer you got from OTB when you became aware of the law change.
Noodledoodleman's reply may be helpful.
Personally, in cases like this, I'd rather have a booking with TUI or Jet2 than a 3rd party like OTB as they'll have more clout.

Oh sorry haha. I didn’t make sense. 

The only reason I booked with OTB is because I preferred the flight times they had on offer and I used them last year and they were pretty good. I definitely agree though with what you are saying 

Pollycat

I' do as Noodledoodleman suggests and push for written confirmation of what drinks you'll get.
I'd include reference to the paragraph in the link to The Independent by Simon Calder that mentions signed contracts.

DCFC79

Lushlis2 said:

lea2012 said:

The law has already passed and come into force already. It was passed early Jan and from what I've read online any bookings made before a certain date (sometime early Jan) would get the normal AI conditions and for other bookings they are restricted.

It is only within certain areas of Majorca and Ibiza, although dubbed as a bid to clean up lager louts and drunken behaviour its been part of a campaign that has been going on for years to clean up the area. Since 2015 I think any new hotels built in these areas must be at least 4*, any renovations should take a hotel to 4* (note hotels not hostels, apartments or guest houses), booze cruises and bar crawls were banned a couple of years ago and now all inclusive is being reduced in the hope that people will step out of the hotel and spend more money in the local economy. 

The Balearic government recognised that they were very dependent on tourism and that the local economy has suffered in recent years due to an influx of AI hotels as money is then not always kept on the islands and instead goes to larger chains or tour operators. They also realised that these areas were attracting a younger crowd with less disposable income and also the cost to the locals for extra policing, cleaning up vomit and rubbish every morning, abundance of sex workers and drug dealers etc was making locals move away from the area so decided to do something about it. Very wise probably in the long run to be fair. 

As for the 6 drinks limit, I'm no big boozer but I do think 6 in a day is less than you think. Beers are very rarely pints in an AI so a couple of small beers or wine with lunch, a cocktail before dinner and  then 3 more drinks to last all night isn't much really when spaced out and for those who chose to stay in and watch entertainment etc it it may not last long. 

Do you know where you read this regarding the top section you wrote? 

I booked my holiday the 24th January which was the day the mallorca bulletin printed their story regarding the AI drinks limit. I’ve also been told by my travel provider that this law will not effect my AI 

I wonder if you could get that in writing, might not be worth it but could try asking.

Lushlis2

I’ve actually written to them again today going into more detail about the articles I’ve read and asked them again about this 6 limit drinks laws and they have again confirmed that the law does not apply to my AI holiday, it only applies to bar crawls and boat parties and that I have nothing to worry about. 

I’m wondering if what Noodledoodleman shared is in fact the reason why OTB are so adamant of this is that contracts with hotels have already been signed 

elsien

OTB are a third party provider though. They don't have direct contracts with the hotels.