The Nice People No. 17

vivatifosi

For those of you stocking up on tablets before CV arrives, advice from France is to take paracetamol, not anti inflammatories like ibuprofen:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/anti-inflammatory-drugs-may-aggravate-coronavirus-infection

Cakeguts

silvercar said:

Pyxis said:

michaels said:

I guess soon we will reach the point where there are quite a lot of people who have had the virus who will want to carry on as usual...except with the testing policy they won't be certain.

Can the tests be bought privately? 
I guess not if there’s a shortage.

Apparently, the test only works while you have symptoms. If you've had corona and recovered then you will show negative, so it won't tell you that you ever had it.

That is very likely because the test is for the virus in your system not the anti-bodies to it when you have had it.

Cakeguts

Pyxis said:

Interesting announcement about possibly confining the over-70s to barracks.

Although I’m not over 70. 
I was a bit surprised they didn’t include vulnerable groups in that.
Strange.

Today is day 14 of my own lockdown. I’m getting increasingly worried about going to the hospital for my procedure appointment on Tuesday. 

I thought I would join your anxiety club. I have an appointment with a psychiatrist in central London on Tuesday.  With the undiagnosed autism you can just imagine where my anxiety levels are now and I can't access any help if there is any for people with autism because I don't have a diagnosis.  I don't have an underlying health problem of the kind that makes me at high risk just my age 62 and a husband who is 75 in May.  I have had bad anxiety on and off since about February but nothing for 20 years before that.  We booked a private psychiatrist 2 weeks ago because my GP having seen the state I was in decided that I needed to see someone quicker than the usual 3 months I would have to wait on the NHS. In 3 months time it could have become dangerous.  (It did 20 years ago.)  It is the anxiety and the trapped nerve that has shown up the autism.  There are lots of other things that make it obvious as well if you know what to look for. Interestingly my neighbour has known for years and so has someone else I know but they didn't think to tell me because they thought I knew.

Cakeguts

PasturesNew said:

Cakeguts said:

.... very likely to be on the autistic spectrum with what used to be called Asperger Syndrome.  I was going to get an official diagnosis soon by something tells me that it will have to wait a bit longer. There is no rush it has only taken 62 years for me to find out. 

I stayed quiet earlier, I have processing/response issues and usually just avoid answering many posts as I don't know how to. 

I'm an Aspie   That's my speshulness.  It's.... not nice.

OK just to let you know that when I was spending time at the mental health centre where I have been a volunteer for 6 years one of the workers when I told her said that she didn't have a gift like that.  There are good sides to it that I have that I will admit to.

My downsides are getting banned from Facebook groups for making comments that other people read as rude.  Usually they are just blunt facts and I can see that now but then I just thought that people were rude. I have to remember that what is blindingly obvious to me might be rocket science to someone else who doesn't process everything in black and white.  My husband has been on at me for years about never having any shades of grey in my thinking and now we know why.

Just at the moment I have the autism special anxiety. in the past I have had the autism special anxiety and the autism special depression.  The trapped nerve wrecked my routine and then this coronavirus is about to do the same thing. 

I have also worked out though that the people who are panic buying in the shops are all suffering from anxiety so I can't tell actually how bad mine is compared to the general public.

What I will say is that the media has a lot to answer for in this. 

My answer is to stay off the computer unless I am on this forum but I don't want to read lots of stuff about coronavirus because that is making the anxiety worse mostly because I have to have facts about things and if people don't explain things thoroughly I get anxious then.  I don't have enough facts about this virus only loads of hype from the media.  My brain seems to live in a very logical world with only black and white processing and lot of worst case scenario processing.

Pyxis

Cakeguts said:

PasturesNew said:

Cakeguts said:

.... very likely to be on the autistic spectrum with what used to be called Asperger Syndrome.  I was going to get an official diagnosis soon by something tells me that it will have to wait a bit longer. There is no rush it has only taken 62 years for me to find out. 

I stayed quiet earlier, I have processing/response issues and usually just avoid answering many posts as I don't know how to. 

I'm an Aspie   That's my speshulness.  It's.... not nice.

OK just to let you know that when I was spending time at the mental health centre where I have been a volunteer for 6 years one of the workers when I told her said that she didn't have a gift like that.  There are good sides to it that I have that I will admit to.

My downsides are getting banned from Facebook groups for making comments that other people read as rude.  Usually they are just blunt facts and I can see that now but then I just thought that people were rude. I have to remember that what is blindingly obvious to me might be rocket science to someone else who doesn't process everything in black and white.  My husband has been on at me for years about never having any shades of grey in my thinking and now we know why.

Just at the moment I have the autism special anxiety. in the past I have had the autism special anxiety and the autism special depression.  The trapped nerve wrecked my routine and then this coronavirus is about to do the same thing. 

I have also worked out though that the people who are panic buying in the shops are all suffering from anxiety so I can't tell actually how bad mine is compared to the general public.

What I will say is that the media has a lot to answer for in this. 

My answer is to stay off the computer unless I am on this forum but I don't want to read lots of stuff about coronavirus because that is making the anxiety worse mostly because I have to have facts about things and if people don't explain things thoroughly I get anxious then.  I don't have enough facts about this virus only loads of hype from the media.  My brain seems to live in a very logical world with only black and white processing and lot of worst case scenario processing.

It may help to put something in your posting signature to the effect that you have Asperger’s and so you might appear blunt, and if so you apologise in advance but it wasn’t meant to be blunt...or words to that effect.

I’ve always found that when people know someone has a problem, be it mental or physical, they can be a lot more understanding and forgiving.

Ok, you might get the odd troll that wants to make a meal out of it, but they would make a meal out of bluntness anyway, so no change there!



By the way, re. latest info on the C-virus, I have always found the BBC’s News channel is good for up-to-date stuff, as is the Red Button Service in a more limited way.

Pyxis

I went for a drive out earlier. I had to fill in an asthma questionnaire for my surgery, and as usual I’d been putting off doing it since Friday, but I suddenly got mobilised, filled it in and decided to drive there and hand-deliver it. 

Then went for a drive round, down by the river, then to a local beauty spot but there were already people about so I went to a body of water and had a tiny walk. The path wasn’t two metres wide, though, and I was anxious about people......had one narrow ‘escape’....but even so, got a bit of fresh air (for ‘fresh air’ read ‘got blown about’) even if only for a few minutes. 
Anyway it was starting to rain, so I drove home.

I will have to go a lot earlier next time, and perhaps on a weekday.

Doozergirl

Pyxis said:

I went for a drive out earlier. I had to fill in an asthma questionnaire for my surgery, and as usual I’d been putting off doing it since Friday, but I suddenly got mobilised, filled it in and decided to drive there and hand-deliver it. 

Then went for a drive round, down by the river, then to a local beauty spot but there were already people about so I went to a body of water and had a tiny walk. The path wasn’t two metres wide, though, and I was anxious about people......had one narrow ‘escape’....but even so, got a bit of fresh air (for ‘fresh air’ read ‘got blown about’) even if only for a few minutes. 
Anyway it was starting to rain, so I drove home.

I will have to go a lot earlier next time, and perhaps on a weekday.

Are you in a city? 

If you're that concerned (I think a quick 2 metre pass with someone in the open air is a far lower risk than you think - they'd need to coughing and sneezing right at you) then maybe find a copy of an Ordnance Survey map and check out the public footpaths that aren't immediately obvious to people as 'beauty spots'.  I can often see no one when I'm walking the dog.  

Even the popular places near us, it's hard to get close to people.  Even on the Commons in London,  unless it's a spectacular day on one of the smaller ones.  

Doozergirl

Cakeguts said:

Pyxis said:

Interesting announcement about possibly confining the over-70s to barracks.

Although I’m not over 70. 
I was a bit surprised they didn’t include vulnerable groups in that.
Strange.

Today is day 14 of my own lockdown. I’m getting increasingly worried about going to the hospital for my procedure appointment on Tuesday. 

I thought I would join your anxiety club. I have an appointment with a psychiatrist in central London on Tuesday.  With the undiagnosed autism you can just imagine where my anxiety levels are now and I can't access any help if there is any for people with autism because I don't have a diagnosis.  I don't have an underlying health problem of the kind that makes me at high risk just my age 62 and a husband who is 75 in May.  I have had bad anxiety on and off since about February but nothing for 20 years before that.  We booked a private psychiatrist 2 weeks ago because my GP having seen the state I was in decided that I needed to see someone quicker than the usual 3 months I would have to wait on the NHS. In 3 months time it could have become dangerous.  (It did 20 years ago.)  It is the anxiety and the trapped nerve that has shown up the autism.  There are lots of other things that make it obvious as well if you know what to look for. Interestingly my neighbour has known for years and so has someone else I know but they didn't think to tell me because they thought I knew.

Good luck for Tuesday.   The first step is being able to acknowledge it.   That's the beginning of feeling better, so you're already on the right track.  

Pyxis

Doozergirl said:

Pyxis said:

I went for a drive out earlier. I had to fill in an asthma questionnaire for my surgery, and as usual I’d been putting off doing it since Friday, but I suddenly got mobilised, filled it in and decided to drive there and hand-deliver it. 

Then went for a drive round, down by the river, then to a local beauty spot but there were already people about so I went to a body of water and had a tiny walk. The path wasn’t two metres wide, though, and I was anxious about people......had one narrow ‘escape’....but even so, got a bit of fresh air (for ‘fresh air’ read ‘got blown about’) even if only for a few minutes. 
Anyway it was starting to rain, so I drove home.

I will have to go a lot earlier next time, and perhaps on a weekday.

Are you in a city? 

If you're that concerned (I think a quick 2 metre pass with someone in the open air is a far lower risk than you think - they'd need to coughing and sneezing right at you) then maybe find a copy of an Ordnance Survey map and check out the public footpaths that aren't immediately obvious to people as 'beauty spots'.  I can often see no one when I'm walking the dog.  

Even the popular places near us, it's hard to get close to people.  Even on the Commons in London,  unless it's a spectacular day on one of the smaller ones.  

In a large town, and thankfully one with lots of open spaces.

Going really early in the morning is the answer, and solves the people problem. Then I can relax! 

Although I suppose I could always carry a 2-metre long spear! 😁



edit.......I never thought the day would come when I would be out gauging the width of footpaths! 😁

PasturesNew

Cakeguts said:

 

 

 

My downsides are getting banned from Facebook groups for making comments that other people read as rude.  Usually they are just blunt facts and I can see that now but then I just thought that people were rude. I have to remember that what is blindingly obvious to me might be rocket science to someone else who doesn't process everything in black and white.  . 

This knowledge, which I was oblivious to, was the real kick in the face.  I've spent my life with people unfriending me, not liking me ... I seemed to always get blamed for everything, people misunderstood what I said/meant - and there's no 2nd chance.  I just never knew why they'd get all funny about an answer I gave to a question that was asked.  I still don't, the majority of the time. 

Sometimes, now ... only sometimes mind you ... I am half way through answering a post and I just delete it and ask myself "what are you actually ADDING here?" - and I stay quiet if I think others have said it... and I'm also trying to look out for "the nutters" and stay quiet when they ask questions. 

There are a lot of stresshead nutters out there that will read their own thing into whatever you said: basically where you didn't just back them up (even though they're wrong) ... and were simply pointing out "you're wrong".... 

So, I do that a bit more.  In speech it's harder as once you've opened your mouth you can't shovel the words back, or rearrange them.  It's best to stay away from people it seems. 

One thing I have discovered with my new little group is .... it's not just me re never being settled in housing, having issues with the neighbours/environment etc.  So it's been good to meet others and find that others have exactly the same problems as me because "nobody else gets it".  And that's the thing with most issues on the scale: Nobody that isn't one can ever understand what the problem is.  

I also struggle to explain myself, or to ask for things so I get a result.  At other times when I simply "just ask" so I understand, I'm shot down and called ridiculous, awkward, negative .... when all I did was ask a simple question.  It's difficult to engage in a conversation if you have no idea what's being talked about, or if you're unable to clarify .... there's a secret club and I'm not a member of it. 

Missing out/not getting things can be explained in this way:  Imagine if there's a big group of people and somebody arbitrarily calls round "who wants an ice cream?", so I ask "what flavour?"  I might, I might not; what if they're all pistachio. I need to know before I answer.  But, suddenly I see everybody is eating an ice cream and not me.  "I didn't get an ice cream" I say - "You didn't want one" they say back, as if it's my fault.  And that's how it goes with many/most situations... people don't answer the question I asked, in order for me to answer their question.... then they TELL me I didn't want it.  And I can't say "but I asked what flavour/s" as they're not listening, they're not interested.  I'm being awkward now and negative and spoiling everybody's day. ... so it's best to shuffle off and never return.