The Nice People No. 17

ivyleaf

Pastures Did you not have a chance to see the room before you agreed to take it for 6 months? It sounds awful  

PasturesNew

ivyleaf said:

Pastures Did you not have a chance to see the room before you agreed to take it for 6 months? It sounds awful  

I did, but you assume that anything personal won't be there.  There's an agent in your face, she's hovering, you've a tight deadline and need to make a decision or have nothing. It was an awkward time (coming up to Xmas).  

You'd expect things to be present during a viewing for a variety of reasons in somebody's "own home" .... you'd expect they'd be gone by the time you move in in over a fortnight's time.  

I also didn't know that anything laid out in the kitchen wouldn't move for months (if ever), that the washing up in the drainer'd been there 3-4 weeks probably and rarely moves....

You just assume that somebody's living there, caught on the hop, but are decent people and everything will be cleared of clutter and debris by the time somebody else moves in.  It's not an absent landlord where you're judging strangers sharing a house. You'd expect some basic pride, manners and decency.

Living alone, in one's own home, one expects to have things here/there, where you last left it .... but not if people are coming.... 

Pyxis

It may not be too late to ask her to remove her stuff, but I don’t suppose you’d be happy doing that.
She sounds like the sort of person who assumes that if people don’t say anything, then it’s ok to leave it, without thinking of the effect on them.

You could say that you’ve been waiting for her to take her stuff out so that you can properly unpack, and add that you’d be prepared to put it all in a box(es) and leave the box(es)  in the hall. Or something like that.

PasturesNew

Don't quote, will edit

How bizarre.... LL knocked on my door and asked for one of the lamps.  She's been off last week and this week doing up a flat as she's bought another one.  

She asked me if I've bought a lot of food - I think it was a conversation checking in case she's the only person in the world that hadn't.  I said "no"..... I have... I have nearly 3 dozen pot noodles "in case"   If the end of the world weren't coming I'd have left it at about 1.5 dozen. 

PasturesNew

The DM has ramped up its clickbait articles I see. 

I'd not be at all worried about what might happen ... if I were living alone in my own space, where I had control of everything.  It's cooking/food/washing up that's the main issue here - but, of course, the likelihood of anybody else being able to be in close proximity to me.... in my own home I used to go months and months without anybody coming to mine.  Even then it was a one off delivery, or a meter reader... it was never "people", never "visitors".  

If things close down ... as other countries are doing ... that'd take a huge chunk out of any viewing potential I've got.  Everything would be on pause for 2-4 weeks, followed by people not putting theirs on the market until they "see what happens". 

A study of how long it lasts/where says 3 hours in the air, e.g. if somebody's breathing.  Looks like I have a solution to nail .... I know somebody who is breathing  

The (unpublished) study allegedly says it can last 24 hours on cardboard, 2-3 days on plastic or stainless steel.  3 hours in the air after somebody's breathed.  
DM: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8100999/Tests-new-virus-lives-surfaces-3-days.html 

SingleSue

I currently have a very panicked youngest on the phone, he can't find any handwash or soap items in his area and he is almost out of it. He's absolutely raging at the ones who have been panic buying many multiples of the items (especially those who have been buying to profit) leaving those who are more vulnerable without stocks.

Phew - he's just found one!

PasturesNew

SingleSue said:

 
Phew - he's just found one!

From what I've seen/read, in the main the issue is that everybody heads for the biggest shops because usually if you want something the biggest shops will have it.  It's the smaller/cheaper shops and corner shops that seem to still have everything intact.  I'd be in Aldi, Lidl, £land, Home Bargains, Spar.... there's no shortage of soap unless you've only got access to one shop and can only go once ... and they've none. 

People will soon start realising they had an unwanted Xmas present, that was soap, that's buried deep in a box in the loft somewhere with the decs. 

PasturesNew

I wonder what soap is.... 
I read that a bar is better than a liquid soap, something to do with frothing. 
But what is liquid soap and is it different to washing up liquid, is it different to shower gel, how's that different to shampoo.  I bet there are many substitutes if you understood the chemistry. 

I did read that soap: knocks off the little head bits of the virus (by dissolving its outer skin I think), then the water washes it all away and down the plughole.  Once you've knocked off the little head bits (the corona bit that is crown shaped) you've killed it. 

Also, wiping surfaces with bleach... so one could have some cheap/watery bleach to hand.  There's no shortage of bleach, I picked up two 39p bottles just this morning... not stockpiling, they were the small bottles and just two. 

My Plan A is not to wash to rid myself of it, but to build a gun turret and shoot anybody approaching the building.  No worries that way  

Pyxis

SingleSue said:

I currently have a very panicked youngest on the phone, he can't find any handwash or soap items in his area and he is almost out of it. He's absolutely raging at the ones who have been panic buying many multiples of the items (especially those who have been buying to profit) leaving those who are more vulnerable without stocks.

Phew - he's just found one!

Tell him not to forget that there is always shampoo or shower gel, etc. He can use that just as well as ‘normal’ soap.

Pyxis

PasturesNew said:

I wonder what soap is.... 
I read that a bar is better than a liquid soap, something to do with frothing. 
But what is liquid soap and is it different to washing up liquid, is it different to shower gel, how's that different to shampoo.  I bet there are many substitutes if you understood the chemistry. 

I did read that soap: knocks off the little head bits of the virus (by dissolving its outer skin I think), then the water washes it all away and down the plughole.  Once you've knocked off the little head bits (the corona bit that is crown shaped) you've killed it. 

Also, wiping surfaces with bleach... so one could have some cheap/watery bleach to hand.  There's no shortage of bleach, I picked up two 39p bottles just this morning... not stockpiling, they were the small bottles and just two. 

My Plan A is not to wash to rid myself of it, but to build a gun turret and shoot anybody approaching the building.  No worries that way  

With my dettol moat, they’d just get bleached to death.

I’ve got something being delivered tomorrow, and I’m terrified they’ll want a signature. Royal Mail.
 If it’s my regular postman I’ll ask him through the porch door to sign it for me.
I did specific on the order to leave it in my ‘safe place’, but they might not if they need a sig.