UKCPS - “No Stopping” Parking Charge

Coupon-mad

Wasn't the original PCN ony £70?  Flipping heck, there is (as long as you follow our avice and don't ignore an actual court claim) NO RISK of a CCJ or huge costs.  No 'worst case' scenario that you need to worry about at all. 

This is why everyone on this forum defends a court case...the ultimate 'appeal' that 99% win.

Siouxsie78

The first letter stated parking charge details: outstanding balance £60. However, when you read the  letter further down they  claim that the charge is £100   but if paid within 14 days it is £60. 

Coupon-mad

That's always the case and means nothing.  The discount is a bribe not to appeal and later they will pretend they can add a further £60 on top of the £100.  None of it matters and they can't add £60...regardless of what the IPC CoP says.

The PCN is £100, but any claim without proper signage would fail anyway as long as you all defend.  Unlikely to get court claims from UKCPS.  Tell you what though, you do all need to make formal complaints to the IPC.

Siouxsie78

Thanks @Coupon-mad. IPC have responded to our complaints saying  that UKCPS  were enlisted by the landowner as motorists were parking on the road to Gateway house blocking access to visitors.   They have referred us to IAS. 

zhonguonuren

Tell you what though, you do all need to make formal complaints to the IPC and maybe  @zhonguonuren can assist by telling you who to contact by email rather than have to 'register' on the poxy IPC website.

Correct description of IPC complaints  ! but I think this is how it is getting around the lack of complaints when audited by the DVLA.  It can say it provides a complaints system (as it would have to) and there are hardly any so it must be doing a great job!!! Please register and complain.  

If you do need the direct email for the compliance officer come back but I suspect if she is inundated she will just change it.   

zhonguonuren

Also apply to IAS - again there are very few appeals.  We all know why but we are playing into their hands. Swamp them!

Siouxsie78

Do you have any templates I can use to complain to IAS and IPC? Thanks 

Coupon-mad

No, because no-one appeals to the IAS normally, as you know from the NEWBIES thread. 

It's a kangaroo court but if you inundate the IAS with LOTS of evidence of NO signs an keep replying every time they come back to you, keep adding new evidence, I reckon UKCPS might drop the case for some of you. 

  IPC have responded to our complaints saying  that UKCPS  were enlisted by the landowner as motorists were parking on the road to Gateway house blocking access to visitors.  

But you didn't ask that!  Who cares, the complaint is about NO SIGNS.  I do agree that you all need to try IAS but ONLY the standard version that costs nothing.  You all need to add lots and lots of photos of the various angles showing no signs. 

 Share photos, take it to private message and do this together, all of you.  IAS is about evidence, evidence, evidence and nothing else.  You can write it yourself.

If some of the group here are beyond IAS stage then NEVER NEVER NEVER try the non-standard 'late IAS for £15. NONONONONONO.  Absolute farce that should never have been cleared as an ADR, in a million years.

Owain1981

Hello all... how is this still ongoing?

As far as I can see the main points here are:
1. We need to Share Information 
2. Start our own threads 
3. Keep complaining

My Questions for anyone generous enough to share their knowledge are:
1. What do we do with this 'Final Notice Letter' which many of us have received this month from UKCPS? call them? ignore it? 
2. If we are all in the same boat, almost exactly, why do we need to start our own threads? (I'm sure there's a good reason)
3. How shall we best share information? How have people successfully done this in the past? I'm happy to chair some sort of alliance but I'm no expert and im not sure if sharing Dropbox or email details here is a good idea.

This week I will be writing more Letters of complaint to  the IAS, IPC, BPA, DVLA and the Landowner, for what its worth.
I will also write to Lucy Powell MP and Joane Roney (Chief Exec of Manchester City Council) again, explaining that there are many of us fighting this injustice.Perhaps its worth gathering Names and Signatures? 

Coupon-mad

Owain1981 said:

Hello all... how is this still ongoing?

As far as I can see the main points here are:
1. We need to Share Information 
2. Start our own threads 
3. Keep complaining

My Questions for anyone generous enough to share their knowledge are:
1. What do we do with this 'Final Notice Letter' which many of us have received this month from UKCPS? call them? ignore it? 
2. If we are all in the same boat, almost exactly, why do we need to start our own threads? (I'm sure there's a good reason)
3. How shall we best share information? How have people successfully done this in the past? I'm happy to chair some sort of alliance but I'm no expert and im not sure if sharing Dropbox or email details here is a good idea.

This week I will be writing more Letters of complaint to  the IAS, IPC, BPA, DVLA and the Landowner, for what its worth.
I will also write to Lucy Powell MP and Joane Roney (Chief Exec of Manchester City Council) again, explaining that there are many of us fighting this injustice.Perhaps its worth gathering Names and Signatures? 

This will not go away until you've all won your cases or the IPC, DVLA, local MP investigate and if UKCPS are told that their signage is inadequate, by an authority that matters to them.  You will all get letters for years.

No-one EVER EVER EVER calls a PPC. Not in a million years, of course not.

You all appeal and complain and create a paper trail/email trail to show you didn't ignore it and that the local MP and the DVLA and IPC were involved in what you must head up 'FORMAL COMPLAINT ABOUT UKCPS'.