Complaint from next door neighbour

Norman_Castle

Tomg84 wrote: »

Personally I'd ignore the letter. Its rude, threatening and doesn't deserve a response. I'd try and keep quieter after 10pm but as someone who lived in a flat with an unreasonable neighbour who expected not to hear us watching TV or a movie (and received a very similar letter from them). It sounds like they have unrealistic expectations of sound.

You think your neighbour was "unreasonable" and that others have "unreasonable expectations" but you expect to intrude into their home with your unnecessary noise. When asked to turn it down, which most would consider reasonable, you refuse. Is that reasonable? Your reasoning is that they will have to put up with it because it suits you. Reasonable? Have you considered its you with unrealistic expectations of how much noise is reasonable in an attached property?
Your post is typical of responses on neighbour noise threads. Its biased by your experience of being complained about. People who have had noisy neighbours see it differently.


I've had neighbours insisting their noise is normal and should be accepted by others but when others match their noise they hate it. There's an ignorance and selfishness to noisy neighbours.

babyblade41

I haven't read all the replies but neighbour appears to be pretty exacerbated ...

It's about give and take, if noise is heard on a regular basis then it can be so damaging especially if it's consistent.

In my view OP is way too late making noise . 10.00pm would be the absolute max any day of the week

If I were the OP I would make an effort to either move the room where phone and PC are and then ask neighbour if noise is more acceptable then.

You can't expect to be quiet but you can help reducing it.

I am usually in bed at around 9.00 as I'm up very early so if someone was being noisy still at 11.00 or even worse 12.00 I would be annoyed and it does affect mental health

If neighbour is just being awkward then there isn't much that is going to appease them so maybe look for somewhere which suits your lifestyle a little more

Norman_Castle

remembermee wrote: »

And then there’s the phone! Wow! They have it on speaker all the time and it drives me insane!!

I had a speaker phone neighbour,
"I'm on a speaker phone", "What?", "I'M ON A SPEAKER PHONE", "You're on a speaker phone?", "Yeah". "I've put you on speaker phone", "What?", "I'VE PUT YOU ON SPEAKER PHONE", "You've put me on speaker phone", "What?", "YOU'VE PUT ME ON SPEAKER PHONE?", "Yeah", "Brilliant aren't they", "What?"................


This was a neighbour who already had a very loud voice and added "D'yer get me" to the end of every sentence doubling the length of calls.

PasturesNew

Maybe he OP could download a Decibel Monitor on their phone and keep it visible so they can cast an eye over to see if/how/when they are noisy.

Get some figures on it, some idea of the level. If it never read over 50 the neighbour's a l00n. If it's always sitting at 70-80 and peaking at 120-150 at midnight then the OP needs to recognise that it's too much, too late.

davidmcn

PasturesNew wrote: »

Maybe he OP could download a Decibel Monitor on their phone and keep it visible so they can cast an eye over to see if/how/when they are noisy.

Get some figures on it, some idea of the level. If it never read over 50 the neighbour's a l00n. If it's always sitting at 70-80 and peaking at 120-150 at midnight then the OP needs to recognise that it's too much, too late.

Or offer to pop next door (after leaving their tv/computer on at the usual volume) so they can hear for themselves how loud it is.

Shelldean

Environmental health won't do anything. They'll class it as normal household noise!

We'd live in our home for 15+ yet when the neither changed. From a mum with three boys who'd been young when we moved in. To a man with two daughters.
The change in noise levels was amazing. Never heard previous neighbour.
This one....all the time. Doors, stairs talking. His mother using the phone on speaker while she sat in garden. List goes on ad on.

Drove me to distraction.
Couldn't speak to him as he'd never answer the door.
His smoke alarm was beeping for new batteries for over a month. I used to count the beeps instead of sheep..... lol lol
As we're both rented involved HA, and we had mediation.
Problem did improve, and now a few years later he's so much quieter.

But environmental health wouldn't help as they said it was all normal household noise. Including drilling into our wall at 10.50pm!!!!!!
We did knock and receive an answer for that one.....he didn't think we'd hear it!!!!

Smodlet

I could post a list of definitions of "quiet", "silent", "considerate" and, most of all, "aspire" but that is what dictionaries are for.

"Aspire" is not supposed to mean "unattainable" but, once you factor in noisy neighbours (for which, read "pig-ignorant chavs") "quiet" becomes as easy to reach as the moon; silent is in a galaxy yet to be discovered.

I wish all noisy neighbours were thrown into prison so they could experience noisy neighbours 23/7... Don't they get an hour outside?

Marvel1

Got my 2 nephews here with me at the moment, watching a film and laughing a bit. I have my headphones watching something else on laptop. They said next door just knocked the wall, so I said to them best keep it down.

I put my ear next to my wall, can barely hear next door, my nephews said they can hear them talking next door and they are sitting down (my nephews).

:eek: how much can neighbours hear me, but I can't hear anything!

I know my earing is bad and need a hearing aid or something but :embarasse

Smodlet

Marvel1 wrote: »

Got my 2 nephews here with me at the moment, watching a film and laughing a bit. I have my headphones watching something else on laptop. They said next door just knocked the wall, so I said to them best keep it down.

I put my ear next to my wall, can barely hear next door, my nephews said they can hear them talking next door and they are sitting down (my nephews).

:eek: how much can neighbours hear me, but I can't hear anything!

I know my earing is bad and need a hearing aid or something but :embarasse

... I think you may have made a significant discovery, Marvel1. The fact you cannot hear other people does not mean they cannot hear you.

The fact you cannot hear yourself much probably does mean you are making more noise than those with normal hearing find acceptable, especially given that walls act as amplifiers. What is a tiny sound your side of the wall is magnified exponentially the other side of it; a tap your side can sound like a bang or a crash the other side.

This is why I said those who live in attached accommodation need to be considerate (not silent, though that would be nice) all the time. They may not keep the same hours as you/have the same taste in music as you.

I (almost) never listen to music as loud as I want it without headphones on. When I use them, not even OH can hear it... He can hear me singing along, which I am not always aware I am doing. :o:o

Marvel1

Smodlet wrote: »

... I think you may have made a significant discovery, Marvel1. The fact you cannot hear other people does not mean they cannot hear you.

The fact you cannot hear yourself much probably does mean you are making more noise than those with normal hearing find acceptable, especially given that walls act as amplifiers. What is a tiny sound your side of the wall is magnified exponentially the other side of it; a tap your side can sound like a bang or a crash the other side.

This is why I said those who live in attached accommodation need to be considerate (not silent, though that would be nice) all the time. They may not keep the same hours as you/have the same taste in music as you.

I (almost) never listen to music as loud as I want it without headphones on. When I use them, not even OH can hear it... He can hear me singing along, which I am not always aware I am doing. :o:o

Every time I watch TV, my headphones are on, but I'm thinking when toilet flushes as its also close by the wall! :eek:

I know I can't hear them and you think they can't hear me, one of my nephews just said can I report them (next door) as they can hear is them talking :rotfl: