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Minimum bedroom size - social housing

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  • csgohan4
    csgohan4 Posts: 10,600 Forumite
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    edited 8 September 2019 at 12:01PM
    t0rt0ise wrote: »
    Your attitude towards social housing tenants is disgusting and sad at the same time. All people should be able to hold their head up in society and not just feel grateful. Sounds like something out of Dickens.



    So you would support someone who has housing but because it's not 'big enough' they should have a bigger one not through need? Entitled?


    What about those people who literally have nothing, with only the clothes on their backs who get turned away because they don't have enough tick boxes to tick or points to get housing.


    Hold your head up in society sure, but when your given the roof over your heads, what gives you the right to ask for more when there is no physical or mental need?


    It's clear the OP wants their cake and eat, downgrading of their flat to pay less but still have 2 adults in a graded 1 bed house.
    Couldn't be clear enough


    HA don't give what they don't have


    You give some people an inch they want a mile.


    Things have clearly changed and this generation for the entitled.


    What happened to working hard, being the first in your family to go to UNI/Apprenticeship, study hard, work hard and reap the rewards of your chosen profession to give back to your parents and those who supported you


    Are you advocating, once in social housing, forever there, if there is no physical/mental disabilities? Where's the self betterment and the moving forward in life, than stuck in the endless cycle of social housing and relying on handouts and food banks, living from day to day, if you can why not?


    If you have no physical/mental disabilities preventing this what's their excuse?.
    "It is prudent when shopping for something important, not to limit yourself to Pound land/Estate Agents"

    G_M/ Bowlhead99 RIP
  • Cakeguts
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    t0rt0ise wrote: »
    That is simply not true. You should do some research to learn how Housing Associations are funded. You would then be able to make a more cogent argument.


    I googled it and it said Ministry of Housing, Communities and local government. So that is two examples of tax payers money. Ministry of Housing is tax payers and local government is also tax payers.



    Then I found this.https://www.newstatesman.com/spotlight/housing/2018/03/investment-funds-have-found-new-cash-cow-social-housing Housing for vulnerable people as a private investment by a company.



    Then this. Tax payers money again.

    https://www.ft.com/content/cd0fdd1a-bbe4-11e8-8274-55b72926558f
  • k3lvc
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    csgohan4 wrote: »
    It's clear the OP wants their cake and eat, downgrading of their flat to pay less but still have 2 adults in a graded 1 bed house.
    Agree wholeheartedly but for the point that the OP still hasn't confirmed who the people are - as far as we know it could be partner who snores, 6 week old child or invalid parent all of whom have different needs and different status to the HA

    Unfortunately all respondents are !!!!!!s for not getting the OP a rent reduction/upgraded property
  • justjohn wrote: »
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    I thought that post by Kentish Dave was actually very diplomatic.



    It was irrelevant. The question was about minimum room sizes.
  • gettingready
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    edited 8 September 2019 at 12:46PM
    For the last time, and I really mean the last time as frankly the level f hostility on this thread is insane.. but for the last time:

    Flat is classed as a 2 bedroom flat
    1 of the bedrooms is way below the legal minimum bedroom size so the flat should not be classed as a 2 bedroom flat.

    There is NOTHING more to it.

    All the "extra questions" are irrelevant to the 2 facts stated above. So I do not answer them as they are nothing to do with what I am asking about.

    It really is that simple.

    But nobody loos at the facts , everyone has a theory - amazing.

    So please feel free to continue with your assumptions and conspiracy theories, some people clearly have an awful lot of time on their hands.

    EDIT - Kentish Dave posts from last night when he said that I am trying to find a way to move my adult child into my bed (!!!) as well as dragging my posts from different parts of the MSE into here was deleted by admin. First completely sick, second completely irrelevant
  • Cakeguts
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    For the last time, and I really mean the last time as frankly the level f hostility on this thread is insane.. but for the last time:

    Flat is classed as a 2 bedroom flat
    1 of the bedrooms is way below the legal minimum bedroom size so the flat should not be classed as a 2 bedroom flat.

    There is NOTHING more to it.

    All the "extra questions" are irrelevant to the 2 facts stated above.

    It really is that simple.

    But nobody loos at the facts , everyone has a theory - amazing.

    So please feel free to continue with your conspiracy theories, some people clearly have an awful lot of time on your hands.


    If you can get a bed in it then it is a bedroom. Have a look at some show houses for new builds and see what size (small) you can get a bed into.



    If you can't get a bed in it then it isn't a bedroom. If your property has two rooms that can both contain beds then you have a two bedroom flat.
  • For the last time, and I really mean the last time as frankly the level f hostility on this thread is insane.. but for the last time:

    Flat is classed as a 2 bedroom flat
    1 of the bedrooms is way below the legal minimum bedroom size so the flat should not be classed as a 2 bedroom flat.

    There is NOTHING more to it.

    All the "extra questions" are irrelevant to the 2 facts stated above.

    It really is that simple.


    I’m afraid I still don’t understand what advice you are looking for. You are just making statements here, no questions.
  • csgohan4 wrote: »
    So you would support someone who has housing but because it's not 'big enough' they should have a bigger one not through need? Entitled?
    Where has the op asked for that? The op doesn't understand why such a small room is classed as a bedroom. They haven't asked for opinions, just basic, factual information.
  • I’m afraid I still don’t understand what advice you are looking for. You are just making statements here, no questions.
    Its not difficult. They're asking about minimum room sizes and what is classed as a bedroom.
  • gettingready
    gettingready Posts: 11,330 Forumite
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    Thank you Norman, exactly that. Nothing else.
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