Minimum bedroom size - social housing

justjohn

Norman_Castle wrote: »

It was irrelevant. The question was about minimum room sizes.

Not irrelevant the owner / HA has decided its a 2 bed. The tenant objects to this. They have an option to move on. Flat/house does not come under HMO.

onwards&upwards

gettingready wrote: »

Thank you Norman, exactly that. Nothing else.

But you seem to already know the classification?

justjohn

Here is some info on the minimum sizes (so it may be classed as a boxroom)


Maybe the tenancy wording should be changed to ( 1 bed and a boxroom, that way the HA will not get hassle from peeps)


https://libcom.org/blog/how-combat-bedroom-tax-tape-measure-20022013

gettingready

The only real reference to this that I have found relates to "bedroom tax", people who are receiving benefits have rooms of such size discounted as a bedroom for the benefits purpose. As I do not claim benefits - I am looking for another way to challenge the classification.

https://libcom.org/blog/how-combat-bedroom-tax-tape-measure-20022013#targetText=One%20%E2%80%93%20but%20only%20one%20%E2%80%93%20of,a%20full%20(1.0)%20bedroom.

https://www.channel4.com/news/bedroom-tax-legal-challenge-victory-fife-council

So people on benefits have small rooms disregarded as bedrooms but if you are not on benefits, broom cupboard can be classed as a bedroom?

And so much hostility when one asks a simple question.

Norman_Castle

onwards&upwards wrote: »

Your thread on Midland Heart?

Literally no abuse, hardly any replies at all, just a few helpful ones from knowledgeable posters.

Thread about Midland Heart from 10 years ago?, not sure what you're referring to. Question was about problems getting repairs done, replies asked why I don't do the repairs myself implying I should be doing that and I was expecting too much. From memory the repair was a leaking valley above the second floor resulting in water flowing from a plug socket when it rained.
The presumption was I'm entitled although if I was willing to do the work and cover the costs the landlord wouldn't allow me to hence the need to get the landlord involved and the subsequent difficulties.

gettingready

justjohn wrote: »

Here is some info on the minimum sizes


https://libcom.org/blog/how-combat-bedroom-tax-tape-measure-20022013

I am aware of this - this only applies to people on benefits though

gettingready

Another link but again referring to benefits (which I do not claim) :

https://nearlylegal.co.uk/2013/02/room-without-review-thoughts-on-tackling-the-bedroom-tax/

One option might be whether the bedroom is actually a bedroom. As noted above, the statute and regulations have left the definition of a bedroom up to social landlords. I don’t know of any social landlord conducting a review of its properties.

Well, I may be the first to challenge that then....

justjohn

gettingready wrote: »

I am aware of this - this only applies to people on benefits though

maybe....maybe not. think you will find if your property was put up for sale.


You would probably find it is classed as a boxroom. A boxroom can be slept in.

Norman_Castle

justjohn wrote: »

Not irrelevant the owner / HA has decided its a 2 bed. The tenant objects to this. They have an option to move on. Flat/house does not come under HMO.

The tenant is entitled to ask why such a small room is classed as a bedroom or an explanation of why the flat is two bedroomed. The suggestion to move on if they don't like it is irrelevant.
I'm sure there's a link on here about challenging council tax bands. Are people condemned if they do this?



Op, just ask the HA, you will get a definitive explanation rather than sanctimonious judgement.

justjohn

gettingready wrote: »

Well, I may be the first to challenge that then....

Defiantly not there will have been chancers trying that one before lol


Good job it HA you are hassling ...As many private LL are getting hardline on things like this lol