Minimum bedroom size - social housing

Norman_Castle

gettingtheresometime wrote: »

May be an England thing then.


In this neck of the woods, it's easier to knock the building down and build new as it's easier to achieve the relevant standards.

It might also be about planning permission. Some large Victorian houses which are unlikely to be listed were demolished apart from the front facade then rebuilt on the same footprint. Demolishing them completely and rebuilding might not have passed planning due to their prominent position and adjacent properties The HA are keen to keep the integrity of an area rather than just provide housing.

Norman_Castle

Sea_Shell wrote: »

The inherent problem with forum discussions such as these is...

Only the OP knows what outcome they want.
They want to know if a room or flat is correctly classified. This will be based on dimensions, the motivation is irrelevant.


If they don't get it, they probably won't tell us.
That would depend on the reaction they've had. Many of the replies on here have hoped they don't so personally I wouldn't feed their glee.


If they do get it, they might tell us, but we might not believe them.
Or not want to believe them as it spoils the fun.


All comments (on most threads) rely on an element of gut reaction or trust because basically at the end of the day, anyone can say anything.

Gut reaction and trust unless you are questioning any element of your social housing where you will be condemned for being anything other than endlessley grateful by people who think being a taxpayer obliges and entitles them to do this.

parkrunner

Sea_Shell wrote: »

The inherent problem with forum discussions such as these is...

Only the OP knows what outcome they want.

If they don't get it, they probably won't tell us.

If they do get it, they might tell us, but we might not believe them.

All comments (on most threads) rely on an element of gut reaction or trust because basically at the end of the day, anyone can say anything.

Agreed but when something sounds implausible it usually is.

Eva_Fisher

gettingready said:

Not downgraded. I want one bed yo be called one bed on the paperwork.
Why is it so difficult to understand for some?
If a private landlord was renting this out as a bedroom everyone would be outraged.
And because it is social housing this should be allowed?
It is NOT a 2 bedroom flat so it should not be called/charged for as a 2 bedroom flat.

THIS is the issue - there is nothing else to it

Measurements, total space in the room does NOT qualify it as a bedroom. Simples

Hi I totally agree. I’m having the same problem. I’m single parent and council just moved me in to small flat then we had before. My daughters bedroom is under the limit of classifying as a single bedroom. I live in London and paying council tax for 2bedroom flat £1540. 

I would like to know if I can challenge council to change it to 1bed flat. 

Please advise 

KatrinaWaves

Eva_Fisher said:

gettingready said:

Not downgraded. I want one bed yo be called one bed on the paperwork.
Why is it so difficult to understand for some?
If a private landlord was renting this out as a bedroom everyone would be outraged.
And because it is social housing this should be allowed?
It is NOT a 2 bedroom flat so it should not be called/charged for as a 2 bedroom flat.

THIS is the issue - there is nothing else to it

Measurements, total space in the room does NOT qualify it as a bedroom. Simples

Hi I totally agree. I’m having the same problem. I’m single parent and council just moved me in to small flat then we had before. My daughters bedroom is under the limit of classifying as a single bedroom. I live in London and paying council tax for 2bedroom flat £1540. 

I would like to know if I can challenge council to change it to 1bed flat. 

Please advise 

Council tax is not based on the amount of bedrooms. It is based on property value. Yes this may be affected by bedrooms but there is no such thing as 1 bed ctax and a 2 bed ctax. The council cannot change the council tax price anyway, that is the valuation office. There
is no guarantee your council tax price will change. 

HampshireH

Eva_Fisher said:

gettingready said:

Not downgraded. I want one bed yo be called one bed on the paperwork.
Why is it so difficult to understand for some?
If a private landlord was renting this out as a bedroom everyone would be outraged.
And because it is social housing this should be allowed?
It is NOT a 2 bedroom flat so it should not be called/charged for as a 2 bedroom flat.

THIS is the issue - there is nothing else to it

Measurements, total space in the room does NOT qualify it as a bedroom. Simples

Hi I totally agree. I’m having the same problem. I’m single parent and council just moved me in to small flat then we had before. My daughters bedroom is under the limit of classifying as a single bedroom. I live in London and paying council tax for 2bedroom flat £1540. 

I would like to know if I can challenge council to change it to 1bed flat. 

Please advise 

Hi

It's usually best to start your own thread.

In your case why have you accepted a place smaller than your last one that doesn't make sense. Especially at tha price. As above council tax isn't based on bedrooms.

Assessments are based on a number of factors, such as a property’s:

• size
• layout
• character
• location
• change in use
• value on 1 April 1991 (England) or 1 April 2003 (Wales)

See this link for how your council tax is calculated

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/understand-how-council-tax-bands-are-assessed#:~:text=Council Tax valuations are based,1 April 2003 in Wales.