A Question for Tory Supporters

Dee_Best

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

FYI - Michael Gove himself gave out this number today for anyone who wants to complain about the liar Boris Johnson's cowardly avoidance of scutiny by Andrew Neil. It's the Press Office at 10 Downing Street: 0207 930 4433.

The person I spoke to seemed slightly unhappy and certainly very harrassed this morning. Can't think why :-)

I'm not surprised they were unhappy.
For supposed "cowardly avoidance of scrutiny" Boris has been on TV daily and been interviewed numerous times - but none of those count, seemingly.

You keep stamping your feet Mr Neil; the look suits you.

Zero_Gravitas

Dee_Best wrote: »

I'm not surprised they were unhappy.
For supposed "cowardly avoidance of scrutiny" Boris has been on TV daily and been interviewed numerous times - but none of those count, seemingly.

You keep stamping your feet Mr Neil; the look suits you.

There’s a big difference between being interviewed and actually being scrutinised... the liar Boris Johnson has been choosing his easy rides very carefully this election, and hiding from any real scrutiny.

I see that the Conservative’s latest sound bite is “get Britain out of neutral”. That’s probably true - they’d be putting Britain in reverse pretty quickly. And that’s quite apart from the fact that “Britain” does not include Northern Ireland, so at least they are now admitting that NI will be treated differently...

Dee_Best

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

There’s a big difference between being interviewed and actually being scrutinised... the liar Boris Johnson has been choosing his easy rides very carefully this election, and hiding from any real scrutiny.

I see that the Conservative’s latest sound bite is “get Britain out of neutral”. That’s probably true - they’d be putting Britain in reverse pretty quickly. And that’s quite apart from the fact that “Britain” does not include Northern Ireland, so at least they are now admitting that NI will be treated differently...

You're straw-clutching and you know it.

Simply put, there are only two choices in this election if you're English.
Choose the one who promises to take us out of the EU toot-sweet or choose the even worse liar who won't free us from the EU and who is also innumerate, a terrorist sympathiser and indecisive - except when it comes to pressing a big red button which he would refuse to do.
Unless you abdicate responsibility, that's your choice.


I suspect that come next Friday you will be far more upset than I will.

Malthusian

Herzlos wrote: »

Some seem to think that lack of intelligence makes people poor, but studies have shown the opposite - poverty makes people less smart.

It's both, and if you think it has to be one or the other then you have a shining political career ahead of you.

The easiest way to generate money is with capital. A window cleaner has an upper cap on earnings (in that he can only work so many hours a week), yet the manager of a window cleaning company has no upper cap as he can always hire more staff.

In an economy with full employment where every small business owner in the land bellyaches about the difficulty of finding staff who will turn up on time but it's not illegal to give a job to. Good luck with that.

Someone starting window cleaning with £100 will only be able to buy basic stuff that'll take him longer to do the job and be less productive than someone who can invest £10,000 in it. The former guy can built up to the position of the latter guy, sure, but it'll take him years to get to the point the latter guy started at.

It'll take him much much longer if he decides that a quicker way to get a £10,000 window cleaning business is to blame the Jews. Unless he's exceptionally lucky in the revolution. Which is no different from trying online poker or Ponzi schemes as a strategy.

Herzlos

I don't get how the Jews come into it unless it's some kind of oblique pop at Corbyn?


I agree that alleged low unemployment might make finding staff a bit harder, but it doesn't actually invalidate my point does it? I'm sure there are plenty of people on zero-hour contracts (or work VISAs) who would quite happily take on more hours cleaning windows.

Dee_Best

The Labour party knows it's going to lose!

...the party has been training candidates in a slightly odd way: in how to not cry on election night next week.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/londoners-diary/the-londoner-labour-orders-no-tears-on-poll-night-a4306571.html


No wonder we're seeing more so-called real true documents (real, honest injun guv) that nobody's ever seen before and written as practice by office juniors promoted as supposed "evidence".
It's called desperation.

westernpromise

I love it when a post blows up like this in the OP's face. Asked what would make people stop voting Tory he got told that having a lying anti-Semitic racist Marxist terrorist supporter as leader would do it.

So that went well.

sham63

Dee_Best wrote: »

You're straw-clutching and you know it.

Simply put, there are only two choices in this election if you're English.
Choose the one who promises to take us out of the EU toot-sweet or choose the even worse liar who won't free us from the EU and who is also innumerate, a terrorist sympathiser and indecisive - except when it comes to pressing a big red button which he would refuse to do.
Unless you abdicate responsibility, that's your choice.


I suspect that come next Friday you will be far more upset than I will.

You sound like you’ve been brainwashed by the Daily Express and their ilk. I don’t think any neutral observer who looked at the facts would conclude that Corbyn is an “even worse liar” than Johnson.
As for “free us from the EU” :rotfl:

Moby

https://news.sky.com/story/this-could-be-the-most-significant-leaked-document-of-the-campaign-11879552


“It reveals for the first time that not only will there be customs declarations on goods going from Northern Ireland to Great Britain – something that Brexit Secretary Steve Barclay confirmed but Boris Johnson denies – but also there may be checks for goods going in the other direction, from the British mainland to Northern Ireland. This is a further new significant border in the Irish Sea which the DUP will recoil from.(We knew this already)
The impact on the Northern Ireland economy could be devastating, this suggests. It claims 98% of Northern Ireland export businesses are “likely to struggle to bear this cost” of customs declarations and documentary and physical checks on goods going within the United Kingdom.”


No wonder the EU was very happy to sign up to Johnson's deal!

Moby

Pete_Zaluver wrote: »

You do realise that no deal has been agreed between us and signed yet, don't you?
So if as a country we don't like the terms, once Boris gets his majority he could say we'll just walk, would you prefer that?
Because it looks pretty certain that we are leaving.

So basically it's Johnson's really bad deal or no deal. I agree the whole thing is a complete mess so let's not go there.