A Question for Tory Supporters

westernpromise

MaxiRobriguez wrote: »

Sorry I don't get it, you're a remainer who understands that income inequality is rife and you're still wanting to vote Tory?

I get not moving to Labour, but - Lib Dems?

The Lib Dems are neither liberal nor democratic. A party whose actual name is a lie should expect to get shredded at the ballot box.

westernpromise

AndyPix wrote: »

Jeremy Corbin leading it, with Dianne Abbot potential home secretary.




That would do it

I think if it were also anti-Semitic, that would be a factor too.

Chapter11

Arklight wrote: »

There are other political parties you could vote for other than Labour or the Conservatives. My post asks nothing relating to Labour.

Crashing economy - Check
Pound plummeting - Check
Greater net borrowing than all other post war governments combined - Check
Inequality spiralling - Check
Poverty rocketing - Check
Rough sleepers tripled - Check
Brexit chaos - Check
International laughing stock - Check
Crime spiralling - Check
Racism - Check

You say your post has nothing to do with labour and then post the Labour Party Tick List above. The Crashing Economy especially. You might want to add "Socialising the debts of reckless bankers" to it though for completeness.

Moby

The smoking gun:-
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1201861148926205952?s=21

GreatApe

Moby wrote: »

The smoking gun:-
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1201861148926205952?s=21

A trade deal will only be agreed if it is a benefit to both sides

If a trade deal adds say £50 billion to UK GDP (of which Ch about £20 billion would flow into taxes) and the cost of it was say £1 billion more in drugs cost that would be a good deal

And the NHS presumably buys drugs from all over the world bit just the USA

More likely the value of the pound has a bigger impact on drug prices.
With £10 billion a year less sent to the EU that should help the valuation of the pound which will help reduce the ££ cost of drugs (and other imports)

Dee_Best

Moby wrote: »

The smoking gun:-
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1201861148926205952?s=21

Since it's from January any smoke has long-since dispersed - unless of course you're the type determined to see smoke where in reality there is none.

Trump denies interest in NHS even if it was handed to US 'on a silver platter'

Multiple sources today including https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2019/dec/03/trump-denies-interest-in-nhs-even-if-it-was-handed-to-us-on-a-silver-platter-video

Moby

Dee_Best wrote: »

Since it's from January any smoke has long-since dispersed - unless of course you're the type determined to see smoke where in reality there is none.


Multiple sources today including https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2019/dec/03/trump-denies-interest-in-nhs-even-if-it-was-handed-to-us-on-a-silver-platter-video

On the contrary Faisal Islam says otherwise...but of course you could choose to believe Donald Trump:-
“Faisal Islam, the BBC’s economics editor, has posted a very good thread on Twitter explaining the extent to which drug prices would be an issue in a UK-US trade deal. It starts here.” https://gu.com/p/czz6h/stw

RyanEzio

What kind of idiotic business person would even consider purchasing the NHS?



The organisation is an endless money pit. No amount of money chucked at it will ever fix it. It needs fixing within


People need to seriously think before they believe everything that comes out of Corbyns mouth.

Dee_Best

Moby wrote: »

On the contrary Faisal Islam says otherwise...but of course you could choose to believe Donald Trump:-
“Faisal Islam, the BBC’s economics editor, has posted a very good thread on Twitter explaining the extent to which drug prices would be an issue in a UK-US trade deal. It starts here.” https://gu.com/p/czz6h/stw

"Faisal Islam says so, so it must be true!"
Ye gods, that's like a childish playground retort.
"All hail Faisal Islam."
So successful at predicting the future economically that rather than being a billionaire mogul he's a BBC reporter!


Oh and your link is to a Guardian page, which at least is marginally better than Twitter where nobody need be accountable for anything.
:rotfl:

I don't believe Trump.
Even less will I believe a journo trying to peddle mock news.
What I will believe is when it happens.
Not before.
There have been quite enough false scare stories peddled by the pro-EU mob without needing any more, thank you very much.

westernpromise

Selling the NHS would be a great idea.

We spend £130 billion on it every year. A business with £130 billion in income would be worth probably 10 or 15 times that, so £2 trillion or so. If we flogged it off we'd abolish the national debt with the proceeds and the state would save £60 billion a year servicing that debt.

We then take say half that £60 billion and add it to the healthcare budget, so the government spends £160 billion on it instead of £130 billion, i.e. a 20% increase in health spending.

The other £30 billion goes into tax cuts. As high earners have paid for all the increases it's only fair that we should get all the cuts. So the top 5% of earners, about 1.5 million people (Fermi estimate), would each get a tax cut averaging £20,000 a year.

So that's the national debt, NHS and tax fairness sorted out. Simples.