A Question for Tory Supporters

Tromking

Sailtheworld wrote: »

Sounds like you'll be heading to the polls in a poor mood yet again.

Looking to punish someone but not knowing who or why. You'll do what you did last time and just pick whichever party you think would most upset the type of person (who exists only in your imagination) who's been rotten to you.

Not that it would've been too difficult to guess you were going to vote for the Brexit party anyway.

No, I think in my constituency it’s got to be Tory, although I’m flexible when it comes to Brexit being honoured.
You’re right to flag up anger, the Tory strategy, such as as its, is to energise 17.4m voters to vote for them at the next GE. In that regard, things seem to be going to plan.

phillw

Tromking wrote: »

You’re right to flag up anger, the Tory strategy, such as as its, is to energise 17.4m voters to vote for them at the next GE. In that regard, things seem to be going to plan.

Are you saying that 17.4m voters are dumb enough to fall for it?

Even if they pull it off the the fallout from such a disastrous plan is going to destroy the conservatives at future elections and once people realise how they were swindled out of their EU membership then rejoining will not be far off.

Brexit at any cost is not going to be good for leavers.

Sailtheworld

Tromking wrote: »

No, I think in my constituency it’s got to Tory, although I’m flexible when it comes to Brexit being honoured.

You’re right to flag up anger, the Tory strategy, such as as its, is to energise 17.4m voters to vote for them at the next GE. In that regard, things seem to be going to plan.

There's a fine balance between energy and anger and a lot of your fellow brexiteers have stepped over it. An energised brexiteer might vote Tory; an angry one might !!!! their vote away on the brexit party. Looking at the South-West there are a few constituencies where angry brexiteers might make all the difference.

Looks like the Tories will easily get in where I am but I might do my bit for the Labour MP by blocking my Tory neighbour's drive whilst wearing a red rosette and having a breakfast picnic of avocado and Champagne on the street.

phillw

Sailtheworld wrote: »

An energised brexiteer might vote Tory; an angry one might !!!! their vote away on the brexit party.

What we need to do is anger the voters just enough to split the vote equally. It will require careful planning, but I'm sure targeted facebook adverts can achieve it.

It's a pity cambridge analytica went bust after their success with skewing the result of the leave campaign, or we could have hired them.

Thrugelmir

phillw wrote: »

What we need to do is anger the voters just enough to split the vote equally. It will require careful planning, but I'm sure targeted facebook adverts can achieve it.

It's a pity cambridge analytica went bust after their success with skewing the result of the leave campaign, or we could have hired them.

I would have thought unifying the Labour vote would be the priority. Papering over the divisions can only last so long.

Sailtheworld

Thrugelmir wrote: »

I would have thought unifying the Labour vote would be the priority. Papering over the divisions can only last so long.

Boris is working on it.

phillw

Thrugelmir wrote: »

I would have thought unifying the Labour vote would be the priority. Papering over the divisions can only last so long.

Realistically the only way to unify the labour vote is to paper over the cracks.

Boris is being revealed, he won't easily be able to pivot away from this to get the moderate tories back. It's all going to plan.

It's a rather bleak corner Boris has painted himself into

Thrugelmir

phillw wrote: »

Realistically the only way to unify the labour vote is to paper over the cracks.

Boris is being revealed, he won't easily be able to pivot away from this to get the moderate tories back. It's all going to plan.

It's a rather bleak corner Boris has painted himself into

Outside the "bubble" doesn't deflect the weariness with which the electorate are viewing the behaviour of the elected rabble. Self interest appears to be coming first. Let's have a General Election and resolve this once and for all. .

phillw

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Outside the "bubble" doesn't deflect the weariness with which the electorate are viewing the behaviour of the elected rabble. Self interest appears to be coming first. Let's have a General Election and resolve this once and for all. .

I agree the rabble is operating on self interest, but they no longer have a majority and therefore can't force a general election to frustrate the will of the people.

I'd suggest that having a general election when people are going to vote using anger rather than logic would be a bad time to have one.

Thrugelmir

phillw wrote: »

I agree the rabble is operating on self interest, but they no longer have a majority and therefore can't force a general election to frustrate the will of the people.

The rabble is the collective.........

Living inside the bubble can give one a skewed view.