Armtrac final letter

Quentin

They are allowed a month to respond, so be patient!

Egbert_Nobacon

Except for the landowner cancellation you have done all you can for now.

You will no doubt get Debt Crawler letters threatening all sorts of terrible scenarios - just file and ignore.
Come back if you receive a Letter Before Action this is when you may have further questions.

In the meantime google POFA 2012 where you will understand why they can only pursue the driver (who remains unidentified) because of the dates involved.

Redx

Neil1019 wrote: »

Hey Redex,

I really appreciate the support that you and this forum gives people like me, as you mentioned new to this and new to the scammers, but is that not the whole point to help people like me who have no idea that these private parking companies are scammers? And to make sure that more and more of us take them on and make their life more difficult?
In your words I have not been a fool and advised who was driving, I may have gotten some of my terminology incorrect on this page and said owner and not RK, however in this case they are the same. But my bad I will wise up and be more careful on the terminology.
I have followed the newbies thread and sent the parking firm an SAR complete with a photo of the V5 and proof of RK. I copied the SAR in the newbies thread and altered the detail as stated to do so.
Thanks again for all your help and wisdom in taking on these scammers.

I think you missed my point

I am saying that UNLESS some fool blabs about who was driving, then they have no idea who was driving and cannot find out who was driving

the fool that blabs with "I parked the vehicle etc) is the fool that uses the wordd "MY , ME , MYSELF & I" like they were taught in primary school , whereas the "no comment" criminals use in police interviews is more appropriate (and yes they are fools but know to keep their trap shut because the free solicitor tells them to say no comment just before the police interviews)

so we tell people not to mention who was driving and appeal as KEEPER , because it is only KEEPER details they can get from the DVLA , those details are the REGISTERED KEEPER details, so not the owner , not the driver either


being an owner or not is irrelevant to what is going on


I wasnt calling you a fool (unless you blabbed about who was driving ?) , lol

I will assume you correctly DID NOT tell them who was driving, so keep it that way , its for you to know and them to find out, which they wont unless you tell them , in which case if you told them then you deserve to pay the money as an object lesson in not blabbing from now on

you should never mention on a public forum or the internet who the driver or owner is , it could be several people invloved, it could be one person only , its for you to know and them to find out, or not find out (I cannot believe how much information people post on the internet)

there could be several entities involved

The owner of the vehicle (say Toyota Finance as its on HP)
The Registered Keeper (named on the V5C)
The Keeper (who drives it on a daily basis for example)
The driver (who was actually driving on the day and parked up)

there could be 2 drivers on the day, like if I drive to asda and my better half drives back, in which case , WHO was driving ? , lol

nobody here wants you reading old stuff like the lazydaisy thread and posts , or the MSE articles either

nobody here wants you to tell us on here who did what and when , so in your story you stick to DRIVER (on the day) and KEEPER (who has received all the letters)

we are not interested in who the owner was, or is , to be an owner you need a bill of sale (invoice), plus the V5C states on it that it is not proof of ownership and never has been, which is why you should not be saying any different, please read it if you dont believe me

assume these people are all different , not one single person, because that makes it harder for fools lik M Cooke at Armtrac who deliberately finds ways to invoice people with pcn,s to swell his bank account (not contect with taking the pay to park money , especially from day trippers)

we tell you this to protect yourself , because they read these forums (and others too)

meaning you have to learn to speak with forked tongue, like we do, and sometimes less is more

Neil1019

Ok so today RK received an email from Armtrac in reply to my SAR. Just photographs and the detail and confirmation that they have received the new address.
Do I need to act upon this or no just sit tight and wait for a letter to drop through the door?

Thanks in advance

Neil1019

Good evening all, today the RK received a letter from BW Legal staying the intent to start court proceeding if not paid. Please can I get some advise on what I should do next?

Neil1019

Good evening all, today the RK received a letter from BW Legal staying the intent to start court proceeding if not paid. Please can I get some advise on what I should do next?

KeithP

Is it a Letter of Claim?

Who does it suggest you pay?

Does it give you thirty days to pay?

Does it include a Reply Form and financial forms?

If so, follow the guidance offered in post #2 of the NEWBIES thread.

Neil1019

KeithP,

Thanks for coming back to me,

It only gives me 14 days to pay, the charge has gone from £100 to £160 now as it includes legal fees. It states to pay BW Legal.
The letter states that if I fail to pay they will seek their clients instruction to start legal proceedings in the county courts upon being served a letter of claim Pursuant to the pre-action protocol . I do not believe this is a letter of claim.
Do I need to do anything?
Neil1019

Quentin

It's not s lbcca

Just another debt collecting attempt which you can safely ignore

Neil1019

Thank you Quentin,

I will do as you suggest and wait for the LBCCA to
Come through.
Not an enjoyable experience that’s for sure but I guess that is what they prey on.

Neil1019