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Will Brexit happen?

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  • phillw
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    adindas wrote: »
    Will you acknowledge that MSEr believe that Brexit will happen, you have better be well prepared for it, here is what you might need to know for prepping ...

    All we can say is that something will happen, anyone who says they know what will happen is wishful thinking.

    I'm waiting for your evidence that the EU has offered a unilateral extension to article 50.
  • adindas
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    phillw wrote: »
    All we can say is that something will happen, anyone who says they know what will happen is wishful thinking.

    This is what I said
    Will you acknowledge that MSEr believe that Brexit will happen.
    phillw wrote: »
    I'm waiting for your evidence that the EU has offered a unilateral extension to article 50.

    Find yourself. It is the statement from Ursula Von der Leyen. I could find out, but I normally get paid for it ...
  • phillw
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    edited 29 August 2019 at 9:52PM
    adindas wrote: »
    Find yourself. It is the statement from Ursula Von der Leyen. I could find out, but I normally get paid for it ...

    Ah, so another lie then. In july she said she was open to it, she's not in a position to offer it. I can see why you didn't want to post any links because it would destroy your argument.

    It's kinda funny how you accused me of not proving proof, but you have different rules for yourself.
    adindas wrote: »
    This is what I said
    Will you acknowledge that MSEr believe that Brexit will happen.

    I believe it could happen. It's one of the possibilities. Do you believe you can see the future?
  • adindas
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    phillw wrote: »
    Ah, so another lie then. In july she said she was open to it, she's not in a position to offer it.

    I can see why you didn't want to post any links because it would destroy your argument.

    In negotiation you always open an offer is it not clear ???
    Compare to when it is under Teresa May, she will need to beg.
    Now they open for offer without UK is even asking for it.

    Completely different attitude as they are getting scared
  • phillw
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    edited 29 August 2019 at 9:59PM
    adindas wrote: »
    In negotiation you always open an offer is it not clear ???
    Compare to when it is under Teresa May, she will need to beg.
    Now they open for offer without UK is even asking for it.

    Completely different attitude as they are getting scared

    She hasn't and cannot offer it, it's not within her power.

    It doesn't sound like a unilateral offer either.

    "Should more time be required and should there be good reasons provided, I will support a further extension if good reasons are provided."

    That sounds like we not only need to ask for it, but would have to actually give a reason for it.

    I think you're not so good at this. They aren't scared, but I'm wondering why you would be interested in them being scared? You sound kinda creepy.
  • Thrugelmir
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    phillw wrote: »

    I'm waiting for your evidence that the EU has offered a unilateral extension to article 50.

    The EU collectively can only react to actual events not supposition.
  • phillw
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    edited 29 August 2019 at 10:00PM
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    The EU collectively can only react to actual events not supposition.

    I'm only asking for proof of adindas claim that they unilaterally offered an extension.

    He refused to provide evidence, I tried to investigate his claim and he seems to not really have a grasp of events.
  • buglawton
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    Takedap wrote: »
    All stuff that is & always has been totally in the hands of the UK Government.

    How is leaving the EU intended to make a difference?
    'That stuff' being HS2 for example.

    Always in the hands of the UK? Think again. HS2 is the result of the UK slavishly following Jacques Delors' integrationist dream.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/9015342/The-continent-is-the-final-destination-for-HS2.html
  • adindas
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    edited 29 August 2019 at 11:19PM
    phillw wrote: »

    I think you're not so good at this. They aren't scared, but I'm wondering why you would be interested in them being scared? You sound kinda creepy.

    Theresa May need to beg, now they open proposal for extension without UK even asking for it but UK ignore it. Everyone who ever negotiate knows that Negotiation is about power and mind game. The power will inlcude the power to cause damage to other party.

    They are getting scared completely a different attitude when thy were facing Theresa May. Look at this reaction

    Ireland panic: Varadkar minister comes clean over no deal fears - 'Very difficult'
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1171455/Brexit-news-UK-EU-Ireland-backstop-Helen-McEntee-Boris-Johnson-no-deal-latest-update
    "Speaking to RTÉ, Ms McEntee said: “We’re in a very difficult situation with the House of Commons being suspended for five weeks.“A no-deal scenario is becoming more and more possible.”

    Ireland panic: Varadkar told to hold emergency Brexit talks as Queen approves Boris' plan
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1171084/brexit-latest-news-ireland-leo-varadkar-boris-johnson-parliament-prorogue-no-deal-latest

    Macron warned: Your fishermen will suffer after no deal - Brexit Secretary hits out
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1171058/Brexit-news-fishing-UK-EU-France-Steve-Barclay-Emmanuel-Macron-no-deal-latest

    BBC's Katya Adler exposes panicked EU's 'only hope' as PM's prorogation puts bloc on brink
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1171309/BBC-News-Katya-Adler-Brexit-latest-European-Union-Boris-Johnson-prorogation-Parliament


    Brexit panic: Varadkar warned no deal would have ‘severe impact’ on Ireland’s economy
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1171205/brexit-latest-news-leo-varadkar-no-deal-ireland-economy-boris-johnson-latest-news-update

    "LEO Varadkar has been warned a no deal Brexit would have a disastrous impact on Ireland’s economy, piling further pressure on the Irish prime minister as the October 31 deadline draws closer"
  • Arklight
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    adindas wrote: »
    Good to know that.
    What about losers how many times just Brexit alone, including the vore in this thread ??

    I don't wish to be rude but you need to be much more careful with your written English if you want people to understand you. I can't make head nor tail of this. Or of much of what you write.
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