Will Brexit happen?

Tromking

Moby wrote: »

The British Social Attitude Survey sums it up quite well imo:-

Does the survey suggest racism/xenophobia at work or just concerns about immigration per se?

markj113

Tromking wrote: »

Does the survey suggest racism/xenophobia at work or just concerns about immigration per se?

as my per my previous post:

markj113 wrote: »

Does objecting to mass uncontrolled immigration make you a racist?


What about concerns on employment levels, wages, housing, school places, medical waiting lists, road congestion and other infrastructure independant of race or religious beliefs?


We are already seeing a wage increase for the unskilled/low skilled due to a reduction in the EU workforce in the UK.

Moby

Tromking wrote: »

Does the survey suggest racism/xenophobia at work or just concerns about immigration per se?

There would have been a range of responses from the downright racist to a concern about immigration purely in relation to resources so lets not get into a dispute about qualitative v quantitative research methods. A research study like this though shouldn't define attitudes in qualitative terms.

For those interested:-
http://natcen.ac.uk/media/1319222/natcen_brexplanations-report-final-web2.pdf

National Centre for Social Research is a respected body:-
http://natcen.ac.uk/about-us/

BikingBud

Perhaps it is as simple as older people never got the opportunity for education that youngsters now have hence the split of those with and without degrees A simple function of time. Moreover the elders may recognise there are other clubs to join and that those clubs will have different rules. And that the current club and its rules and its members is something they wish to leave and try something else.

If some wish to express that as racism and xenophobia maybe that says more about their perspective and prejudices than anything else.

Thrugelmir

BikingBud wrote: »

Perhaps it is as simple as older people never got the opportunity for education that youngsters now have

In the olden days. People worked for what achieved. There was no sense of entitlement. Often education came in later life. Careers weren't always fast tracked.

BikingBud

Thrugelmir wrote: »

In the olden days. People worked for what achieved. There was no sense of entitlement. Often education came in later life. Careers weren't always fast tracked.

Aye

Didn't want to say anymore but it wouldn't let me just say aye.

phillw

Thrugelmir wrote: »

There was no sense of entitlement.

So what went wrong? It's not the millenials with a sense of entitlement.

Moby

BikingBud wrote: »

Perhaps it is as simple as older people never got the opportunity for education that youngsters now have hence the split of those with and without degrees A simple function of time. Moreover the elders may recognise there are other clubs to join and that those clubs will have different rules. And that the current club and its rules and its members is something they wish to leave and try something else.

If some wish to express that as racism and xenophobia maybe that says more about their perspective and prejudices than anything else.

What you are doing here is ascribing possible reasons why sections of the community have certain attitudes. No problem with that, just remember everyone else is doing that as well. It could be that older people tend to have more conservative attitudes, be more fearful of change and more suspicious of difference......or alternatively perhaps they are people who are genuinely excited about the entrepreneurial opportunities that Brexit will bring and we'll soon have new micro businesses springing up all over the North East and Midlands.

Arklight

BikingBud wrote: »

Perhaps it is as simple as older people never got the opportunity for education that youngsters now have hence the split of those with and without degrees A simple function of time. Moreover the elders may recognise there are other clubs to join and that those clubs will have different rules. And that the current club and its rules and its members is something they wish to leave and try something else.

If some wish to express that as racism and xenophobia maybe that says more about their perspective and prejudices than anything else.

Great, what's this other club we can join then?

LHW99

And in other news
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49493632