Will Brexit happen?

Spidernick

GDJTAM wrote: »

I think you'll find that she said it many many times, especially on the TV debates, she was pushed hard. I was actually in the audience for one when she was asked that question and said no deal would not mean a bad deal. The TV debates normally occur before the voting process!

Given that May was almost entirely invisible during the referendum campaign (which helped her win the Tory leadership), I can only conclude that you are thinking of the 2017 General Election campaign, in which case the term beginning 'people in glass houses' springs to mind!

Green_Bear

I don't think Brexit will happen.
I think it's just going to be delayed and delayed.
This is the new normal.

But I could be wrong.
Because I cannot recall a time when any single issue has dragged on for so long and dominated the media etc. It must take up about 50% of all media pages?

Even the worst days of the Troubles in Northern Ireland didn't get so much coverage.
I thought everyone would have got bored of Brexit after perhaps a year at most.

Maybe with time the demographics will move in favour of remaining in the EU?

energy1x

Green_Bear wrote: »

I don't think Brexit will happen.
I think it's just going to be delayed and delayed.
This is the new normal.

But I could be wrong.
Because I cannot recall a time when any single issue has dragged on for so long and dominated the media etc. It must take up about 50% of all media pages?

Even the worst days of the Troubles in Northern Ireland didn't get so much coverage.
I thought everyone would have got bored of Brexit after perhaps a year at most.

Maybe with time the demographics will move in favour of remaining in the EU?

Can hardly be delayed much longer when the EU have said they will not accept any more extensions!

phillw

Tromking wrote: »

There’s usually a direct correlation between a period of chaotic Government and a drop in the polls for the governing party.
Counterintuitively there’s been a boost in the polls for BJ and the Tories.

It's not counter intuitive, people are scared of the foreigners coming, foreigners telling us what to do & foreigners letting us pay a small contribution to trade as if we were all one big country.

The leave voters are so desperate they'll stop at nothing to get away from foreigners.

You can complain that I'm calling leave voters xenophobic etc, but a lot of them are behaving in a desperate way because we haven't left yet & it's making them give away their real opinions. We at least know now how people truly think, rather than the picture they paint.

Green_Bear

energy1x wrote: »

Can hardly be delayed much longer when the EU have said they will not accept any more extensions!

There'll be something else (eg an election), then something else, then something else...

This is it. This is the new normal.
We're not going back to 2005* and we're not leaving the EU.


*before Brexit was ever invented..!

lisyloo

Green_Bear wrote: »

There'll be something else (eg an election), then something else, then something else...

An election does not not delay brexit nor does “something else”.
There is an end date to the process and only revocation or extension will delay.
We are trying the patience of the 27 and the French say no extension as things stand.

I think we should revoke whilst we sort ourselves out but leavers are getting a bit desperate so will never agree to that.

phillw

lisyloo wrote: »

I think we should revoke whilst we sort ourselves out but leavers are getting a bit desperate so will never agree to that.

Yeah, the far right are becoming even more red faced and shouty. We're still at a point where they are revealing themselves though, so it's worth keeping going so that we can learn more.

If Dominic Cummings can cause all the decent conservatives to leave, then we'll be in the right place to move forward.

Takedap

lisyloo wrote: »

An election does not not delay brexit nor does “something else”.
There is an end date to the process and only revocation or extension will delay.
We are trying the patience of the 27 and the French say no extension as things stand.

I think we should revoke whilst we sort ourselves out but leavers are getting a bit desperate so will never agree to that.

We will never "sort ourselves out" until we have left with No Deal & shown one way or the other what the outcome is. Personally, I think it will be extremely detrimental but unless it happens, the most vocal of the Leavers will never shut up about how we have robbed them of their golden futures.


Never has the phrase "You've got what you asked for" been more appropriate.


The Remain supporting parties should be standing back & saying "OK, there you go" while making plans to clear up the aftermath.

lisyloo

Takedap wrote: »

We will never "sort ourselves out"

We could have a second ref on the 3 deliverable options

Remain (revoke)
No deal
WA

Sailtheworld

Takedap wrote: »

We will never "sort ourselves out" until we have left with No Deal & shown one way or the other what the outcome is. Personally, I think it will be extremely detrimental but unless it happens, the most vocal of the Leavers will never shut up about how we have robbed them of their golden futures.

I'd rather put up with the braying of the brexiteers rather than a no-deal. They aren't going to pipe down anyway - they'll just move onto the next thing the Daily Mail tell them they should be getting het up about - food banks, single mother, foreigners - SSDD.