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Mobile Affiliates (CoolNewMobile+PhoneBoxDirect+Phones2YourDoor) in Administration

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  • blinko
    blinko Posts: 2,519 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    lesson learnt here,
    1.you have no contract with your mobile operator with regards to cashback, only the phone company eg car phone warehouse. The service provider has the full right to charge you £30 etc a month as that is what you have signed up for.

    you sign it, it becomes legally binding unless the service provider break there side in which case you can revocate the contract but that rarely happens.

    2nd lesson here, use e2save.com they are the safeest of cashback sites
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    From experiences reported across the web, as well as here, your second lesson is way off course!
  • shazam
    shazam Posts: 400 Forumite
    this is from moneysupermarket website, prooves intersting reading and may change our hopes for reducing cost of contracts...


    Please see statements from the networks received by ourselves regarding CNM/PBD:
    [SIZE=+0]Vodafone[/SIZE]

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    Vodafone UK has been made aware that the Mobile Media Group (also trading as Cool New Mobile and Phone Box Direct) has gone into administration. Vodafone UK will be working with the distributor, Dextra Solutions, and the administrator to ensure all consumer enquiries are dealt with as a priority.
    [SIZE=+0] [/SIZE]
    In the current case, Vodafone UK believes that it has enforceable airtime contracts with these customers. If Vodafone customers have a query about the impact on their airtime contract then they should call 191 from their Vodafone phone.

    As this is a recent development, Vodafone UK will be working with the administrator and Dextra Solutions to ensure any impact on the consumer is minimised. Vodafone believes that it has enforceable airtime contracts with these customers and will consider offers to customers on a case by case basis.

    As Vodafone UK believes the affected customers have enforceable airtime contracts in place, Vodafone UK does not expect customers to leave before the minimum contract term expires.

    General cashback info:
    Vodafone UK is following the industry Code of Practice for the sales and marketing of subscriptions to mobile networks recently introduced by the Mobile Broadband Group and supported by Ofcom. We will continue to communicate with our dealers and distributors and remind them of their responsibility to follow the Code. We take our obligations to follow the Code seriously.
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    We believe that our tariffs are attractive enough not to need further reductions. There are many other factors to consider such as network quality and services, handsets etc when devising packages for customers. However, Vodafone UK encourages competition in the mobile industry and dealers and distributors are at liberty to devise their own offers to attract customers as long as they do so within the industry Code of Practice. We continue to communicate with our dealers and distributors and remind them of their responsibility to follow the industry Code. We take our obligations to follow the Code seriously.
    [SIZE=+0][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]O2[/SIZE]
    In general terms, we don’t encourage cash back. The majority of our consumer contract business is done directly through our own O2 high Street shops and our online website (o2.co.uk). Where we do such business through a reseller, it is via a handful of trusted partners so the volume of cash back deals is low. That said, there is nothing wrong with cash back in principle. Consumers can and do benefit from these deals.
    The problem comes when a cash back deal has complicated or unclear redemption terms. If we find any reseller offering cash back to connect to O2 where the terms do not follow the operator code, we will contact them to get them to change their terms. We will cease to do business with any reseller unwilling to fall into line with the code.
    The operator code (the code of practice for the sales and marketing of subscriptions to mobile networks) can be found on the Ofcom website.
    Regarding Phoneboxdirect and Coolnewmobile, we have no direct relationship with either of these companies. We do, however, have a relationship with a company called Dextra who we believe have done a small amount of business with these companies in the past. We are not aware of any instances of customers being connected to O2 through either of these companies with an unfulfilled cashback deal.
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    [SIZE=+0][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]Orange[/SIZE]
    Orange advises customers affected by the closure of a third party to contact Orange directly. We review each case on an individual basis and will offer the package most suitable to the customer’s needs with Orange talk plans starting at £20 per month. As Orange is not party to third party cashback arrangements we cannot accept responsibility for non payment
    [SIZE=+0][/SIZE]
    Orange recently reissued strict terms and conditions on cashbacks and we are working with our dealers to ensure high standards of customer service are met. Any retailer not conforming to our standards will be removed from our roster of distribution partners and will be stopped from selling Orange phones. We have already stopped working with over 100 dealers in the past 12 months who have not met our expected service standards

    [SIZE=+0]3[/SIZE]
    3 has introduced the most stringent cashback terms in the industry in a bid to protect consumers and limit cashback deals
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    Cashback is an arrangement between the retailer and the customer, and 3 is not liable for any
    arrangements entered into between the retailer and the customer. However 3 is concerned
    by the number of cashback related complaints it continues to receive and has issued stringent
    minimum business terms which if contravened will result in 3 ceasing to trade with the retailer.

    3 will require retailers to submit their cashback offers, and associated marketing and
    advertising of these offers for approval to 3.

    3 has an established process through which all cashback complaints are dealt with.
    Customers affected by liquidation will have their complaint examined through this process on
    a case by case basis.

    [SIZE=+0]T-Mobile[/SIZE]

    · T-Mobile do not feel cashback deals are in the best interest of the customer, the deal is between the customer and the retailer not the network.
    · In the cases of dealers closing down, T-Mobile will look at each case on an individual basis. There is usually only a small percent in any difficulty.
    · Their policy is not to cancel contracts, they would rather negotiate a cheaper tariff. However, they are sensitive to customers predicaments and will look into each on individual basis.
    · They make sure that all dealers adhere to the Ofcom code and they will scrutinise the books of dealers to make sure they are able to offer cashback to customers.
    · If a retailer is not complying, T-Mobile will cease trading with them.

    Rob Barnes
    Head of Mobile
    moneysupermarket.com
    First ever win: Samsung Genio Touch Mobile Phone!!
  • Hi Shazam,

    Can you please check you inbox please? I have a big favour to ask if thats ok.

    Ta!
  • uklad2k
    uklad2k Posts: 224 Forumite
    just phoned vodafone and the lad I got on the phone had no idea what I was talking about.

    took my details, callback within 3 working days
  • uklad2k wrote: »
    just phoned vodafone and the lad I got on the phone had no idea what I was talking about.

    took my details, callback within 3 working days


    at least you have now got your details logged in the right place. They will definitely call you back, they rang me back within the 72 hours and I have just received the callback for my husband within 24 hours, even more impressive.

    They offered my husband the half price £17.50 offer and I told him that on Monday when they sorted mine out I was given the £5 and told him I was promised the offer for my husband would be the same. He didn't argue with me, just agreed it. That was one of the things I made sure I asked on Monday so I knew I was being truthful now.

    I hope you have the same luck
  • Please can I make a request - I have been receiving private messages asking for my vodafone account number to enable people to quote it to get the £5/month deal.

    Please can I ask that you do not contact me to ask for this information. It is personal information which I am not prepared to give out. I do fully understand your reasons for asking and I do genuinely feel for all those of you who have not been able to get the £5 deal but its no different asking for a vodafone account number to asking for my bank account pin number.

    Sorry
  • Received a call back from Vodafone within 24 hrs. They offered me half-price line rental for the remaining 4 months. It would be interesting to know if it's just up to negotiation skills to get the tariff down to £5 / month or whether they judge this based on your payment history. Anyway..I'm glad I know about MSE otherwise I would have paid up another £70.

    I don't know how the employees that worked for CNM feel right now. Can you imagine, I sent them a Letter Before Action on the 12th of November, I receive an email back on the 14th of November (!) the day they go into administration, still pretending the check will be dispatched.
    ‏ From: care@mobile-affiliates.co.uk (care@mobile-affiliates.co.uk)
    i_yellowshield.gifYou may not know this sender. Sent: 14 November 2007 12:29:37 To:
    Dear Mr ....,

    Thank you for your letter dated the 10th November.

    We have forwarded your details over to our processing manager, who will
    have your second cheque despatched immediately.

    We apologised for any inconvenience this may have caused.

    Regards
    Customer Relations
    Mobile Affiliates Limited

    Lesson learnt, never allow your cashback agent more time than it says in the contract before you send them the LBA.
  • russetred
    russetred Posts: 1,334 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Oh dear! just wandered on here to discover I'm affected too.Well I've read every single post, my eyes are bleeding but I'm ready to contact vodaphone and follow every bit of advice given on here.Not the best of times but MSErs as usual supporting each other takes a little of the sting away.Cheers guys.
    "Sometimes life sucks....but the alternative is unacceptable."
  • Can anyone who's been lucky enough to get the £5 a month deal tell me if they're with CNM or PBD??

    Also are there any tips at all? I really need to get put on that tariff rather than the 17.50 one as otherwise xmas is cancelled! You'd think they'd offer everyone the same deal.
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