County court paperwork for pcn from cel

KeithP

CEL offer an email address for their Data Protection Officer on their privacy page: dataprotectionofficer@ce-service.co.uk

Umkomaas

Westham_man wrote: »

CE ltd
Horton house
Exchange flags
Liverpool
L2 3pf

Which is the address on the original claims firm for the claimant -
“ address for sending documents & payments” as per their paperwork which is also the address used for the sar

Simply a mail drop centre. If anyone is there, whether they will sign for receipt is questionable.

https://www.regus.co.uk/virtual-office/virtual-office-checkout-page?preselectedCentreName=Liverpool%20City%20Centre#profAddress

Very imposing part of Liverpool, with prestigious postcode, ideal place for scammers to hide their real business address, which I understand to be in the south east of England.

Westham_man

Delivered & signed for by Regis @11.46 today. Trust me if I win, or they pull out I will be requesting to claim it all back - already produce schedule of costs in anticipation

Westham_man

Today I have received 2 copies of their witness statement completed by Ashley Cohen (who won’t be attending on the day) but a company rep will !! - it shows photos of signs, the pcn, quotes a couple of court cases & has the BPA guidelines in full just to say it says a minimum of 10 mins in there & im saying 11 is allowed - they have also made an offer to settle fir £100 payment now - which I have read they do in cases they intend to pull out of. They have not replied or countered my argument that I’m keeper not driver & that the pcn doesn’t have 1) the necessary warning to keeper or 2) that it was sent outside of the allowable timeframe - looking forward to this now !! Having my day in court (or not as the case may be).

Coupon-mad

completed by Ashley Cohen (who won’t be attending on the day) but a company rep will

No company rep.

They'll either discontinue before the hearing, or not appear (but you MUST!) or they'll send a self employed legal rep who has no rights of audience.

they have also made an offer to settle for £100 payment now - which I have read they do in cases they intend to pull out of.

Yes, it is looking like you might not get your day in court!

Westham_man

Hi,
I’m a self employed gardener & have a person who I employ, when I go to court on the day neither I nor him will be able to work. I will be claiming loss of earning but can I also claim for my employee as he cannot drive my van do cannot work without me but I will still have to pay him

Umkomaas

Westham_man wrote: »

Hi,
I’m a self employed gardener & have a person who I employ, when I go to court on the day neither I nor him will be able to work. I will be claiming loss of earning but can I also claim for my employee as he cannot drive my van do cannot work without me but I will still have to pay him

Max loss of earnings/annual leave is for half a day @ £95 for the Defendant only (in the cases I've read). Self employed defendants have the Devil's own job to get any loss of earnings costs. Not to say don't try, but you'll need to show good evidence of what you've missed out on - past invoices showing hours worked and rate ph might be helpful, but I wouldn't hold your breath. Sorry.

Coupon-mad

Unless you can paint that lovely picture of wholly unreasonable conduct (not just a meritless case, actual dodgy conduct like falsifying photos or not keeping to deadlines set by the court). Adding sums on that they are not entitled to recover, is one that's easy to explain and should be a feature of all hearings when it comes to costs.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6001157/ukcpm-gladstoned

That OP managed to meet that high bar with their list of unreasonable conduct and got £700 in indemnity costs to cover his/her wasted time.

So that would cover you and your employee!

Westham_man

So them not sending me a copy of their DQ’s, as required by the court, might work against them, with these nasty legal letters & threats of the giving me ccj’s ( like they have the power !) & of course grossly over inflated charges for them using the other letter headed paper they have in the office pretending to be legal or debt collectors ������

Coupon-mad

Yes - all of that.

It's a high bar but the linked thread shows Judges can be convinced that a PPC claimant has acted wholly unreasonably, and then will allow higher costs in your favour.

Did you get debt letters though? Who from? Debt Recovery Plus? QDR?

Neither of those are the same office as CEL. But both offer the service free.