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County court paperwork for pcn from cel

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 132,659 Forumite
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    edited 10 June 2019 at 10:39PM
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    Just the relevant page and the front page to prove it's the right BPA CoP relating to the date of the event (as they update it every so often).

    I hope you also managed to find and read carefully, paragraph 9 of the POFA by now? IMHO, no-one needs to ask us to direct them to the right part of that Act.

    Sch 4 of the POFA is easy to read. Find the bit about the 14 days, and work out whether the day 13 was a Thursday or Friday (and whether there was a bank holiday too) meaning - if there was a weekend in the way - it can't be deemed delivered by day 15).

    You haven't said your dates but a day 13 NTK is too late, regardless of weekends.
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  • Westham_man
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    #40 has dated & people have said deemed delivery is too late
  • Coupon-mad
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    incident date 13.6.18 wednesday
    pcn issue date 26.6.18 tuesday
    Quoting #40 as it's ages back (on another page, as I view the forum).

    Yes that is deemed delivered a day too late, as has been said already, although you will have to lead a Judge by the hand, word for word from the POFA which also defines dates of delivery, so it's all there.

    Needs a highlighter pen on a copy of the POFA x 3 to hand out at the hearing.
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    Your Judge needs to be aware that the Supreme Court held that the BPA CoP was 'effectively regulation' without which a parking firm is not allowed to handle DVLA data.
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  • Westham_man
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    Both witness statement & supporting evidence have been delivered by hand & posted recorded delivery - highlighter used on relevant sections
  • nosferatu1001
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    Noone ever says to use recorded. Waste of money

    First class, with free proof of posting. With recorded, if they REFUSE delivery, then all you have is proof they definitely did not get served the documents.
  • Westham_man
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    It’s got my return address on the reverse so if they refuse it it will come back to me & it will have the reason marked on it for none delivery - which will give me even more ammo - apart from the sar info I have had nothing from them
  • Umkomaas
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    It’s got my return address on the reverse so if they refuse it it will come back to me & it will have the reason marked on it for none delivery - which will give me even more ammo - apart from the sar info I have had nothing from them

    To what CEL address did you send it?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • BrownTrout
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    You should have emailed it to Legal2@ce-service.co.uk
  • Westham_man
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    CE ltd
    Horton house
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    Liverpool
    L2 3pf

    Which is the address on the original claims firm for the claimant -
    “ address for sending documents & payments” as per their paperwork which is also the address used for the sar
  • Coupon-mad
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    Use the email address Brown Trout gave you as well, it will be 'belt & braces' proof of service and you can print out the 'sent item' email.

    It never helps to use Recorded Delivery as they might not sign, but having said that, at least you can check the tracking number tomorrow and see if they actually did.
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