Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

VoucherMan

buglawton wrote: »

Can anyone in the 'stockpiling lobby group' explain why there will be a shortage of any imported item?

Not just imported items, but almost anything. All it needs is for someone to mention that some shelves are looking empty, word spreads, and panic buying starts.


I think it will be this type of activity that causes the main problems, rather than the supply chain itself. On our own Stockpiling thread someone recently pointed out the annual event we have, known as Christmas, that can leave shelves bare for no sensible reason. At least at Christmas you know when normality will return.

gfplux

ess0two wrote: »

Whats your issue? as an EU resident, why are you worrying about stockpiling?

My favourite Cheese, cheddar the ones I buy in Luxembourg come from the ROI/N Ireland and Somerset.
If one source does not get through there will be a shortage (temporary or otherwise)

However trying to applying logic to stockpiling and the shortage caused by would be like herding chickens.

You just need to get in extra stock of things that are important to you.

vivatifosi

adindas wrote: »

The current WA will see the UK to be tied up to the EU, to become a subservient of the EU and to be kept to become a cash cow indefinitely. Where is the point of Brexit

Having read the whole 599 pages of the withdrawal agreement I don't think that is correct. Please explain why you think this, quoting page references. I will be the first to admit that there are concerns with the backstop, which is an addendum, but the WA is an eminently sensible document.

gfplux

VoucherMan wrote: »

Not just imported items, but almost anything. All it needs is for someone to mention that some shelves are looking empty, word spreads, and panic buying starts.


I think it will be this type of activity that causes the main problems, rather than the supply chain itself. On our own Stockpiling thread someone recently pointed out the annual event we have, known as Christmas, that can leave shelves bare for no sensible reason. At least at Christmas you know when normality will return.

Thanks for the link.

SpiderLegs

lisyloo wrote: »

There are lots of people (including tories) looking very hard at options to stop no deal and 30+ Tory Mps reportedly prepared to bring their own party down.

One I’ve seen suggested (on linked in) is Sinn Fein giving up their 7 seats.
The other parties are desperate enough to form a government of national unity in the 14 days following a no confidence vote.

Are you saying no deal is the only leave option or the only option full stop?

I’ve been looking at placing a bet myself but I think all bets are off (apart from a no confidence vote which is 1/7).

Ah the fabled ‘government of national unity’.

It’s often said (mainly by remain supporters) how nobody voted for no-deal or how BJ has no authority as he wasn’t elected or how the DUP are holding the country to ransom.

All valid arguments of course.

They conveniently forget all that though when the thought of a cobbled together coalition that just might get them what they want is on the horizon.

Anyway I still want to know who the PM is in this fantasy and what their actually policy on anything is going to be.
Oh and the price required for getting the SNP on board.
Oh and why all these disgruntled tories are going to chuck their careers in the bin.

14 days to get the LDs, SNP, labour :rotfl: and various others to come up with an agreed way forward on brexit. Should be a doddle.

Moe_The_Bartender

Having read the whole 599 pages of the withdrawal agreement I don't think that is correct. Please explain why you think this, quoting page references

Perhaps we should do this the other way round and you tell us why. After all, you claim to have read it in its entirety.

Zuzel

Tromking wrote: »

Liverpool supporters have been booing the National Anthem at cup finals for decades. No Brexit connection, unless you’re looking for one of course.

Nothing at all to do with the 50% of their population who are of Irish descent sticking their oar in either, of course.
Interestingly Merseyside as a whole was split in the referendum with St. Helens, Halton, Warrington, Knowsley and Chester all voting to leave.

StevieJ

Zuzel wrote: »

Nothing at all to do with the 50% of their population who are of Irish descent sticking their oar in either, of course.
Interestingly Merseyside as a whole was split in the referendum with St. Helens, Halton, Warrington, Knowsley and Chester all voting to leave.

Not sure about the others but Chester voted to stay, Cheshire West (that does include Chester) voted to leave.


http://democraticdashboard.com/constituency/city-of-chester

adindas

vivatifosi wrote: »

Having read the whole 599 pages of the withdrawal agreement I don't think that is correct. Please explain why you think this, quoting page references. I will be the first to admit that there are concerns with the backstop, which is an addendum, but the WA is an eminently sensible document.

Moe_The_Bartender wrote: »

Perhaps we should do this the other way round and you tell us why. After all, you claim to have read it in its entirety.

I love that. This should be done in the other way around :):):)

vivatifosi you claimed you have read the whole 599 pages entirely.

The authoritative argument here is that it is well known that this WA has been rejected three times in the parliament. The MPs got advice from the international lawyers, including the country principal legal adviser on international law, the Attorney General.

It is extremely naive to argue against these people just by saying I have read the whole 599 pages of the withdrawal agreement. Now vivatifosi do the handwork to prove it that they got it wrong by showing, quoting pages that you claimed the read them all that will convince people.

Herzlos

So you're both tacitly admitting you don't know why the back stop is such an issue? Have you read the WA?