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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

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  • Zuzel
    Zuzel Posts: 188 Forumite
    gfplux wrote: »
    I just do not understand Brexiters now starting the blame game.

    Britain requested to leave the EU. Correct
    Britain triggered the A50 Correct
    Britain sat down with the EU to negotiate the withdrawal
    Almost correct; our negotiator acceded to demands is more accurate
    Britain and the EU agreed a withdrawal/transition/political understanding deal.
    No, our negotiator agreed to put the EU's proposal forward to Britain's MP's.
    THEN AND ONLY THEN The British Government regects the deal.
    No; when our negotiator put the alleged deal to Britain they refused it, three times.
    If Britain leave the EU at the end of October without a deal there are a lot of people to blame but NOT the EU.
    According to the EU's own Article 50 the EU must reach agreement with the country leaving; despite being asked, the EU are refusing.

    Please save me from Brexiters crying that Brexit was not a huge success because those awful people of the EU.
    Please show me any Brexiter doing this?

    If you get Brexit, just suck it up. You wanted it, you got it now shut up.
    In case you hadn't noticed, Britain still has not left the EU.
    Don't worry though; you are absolutely correct in that we do indeed want Brexit.
    Provided the illogical and mostly incorrect ramblings of non-Brexiters ceases upon Brexit day you might well see Brexiters "shut up".
    Given the fervent pro-EU tone of some remainers though I think you've more chance of spotting a Unicorn in the aisles of your local Auchen.
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,938 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    I don't think Boris and his mob actually want to leave with 'no deal' but they will be praying that parliament can stop them


    I'm convinced that Boris and co (even Farage) don't actually want to leave. The plan is to get us to the brink, weaken the pound and make a huge profit from shorting the markets, then at the last minute conceded, remain and blame the EU to take advantage of the market recover on the way back up.


    That way they all make a killing and Farage can spend another decade campaigning against the EU.
  • SpiderLegs
    SpiderLegs Posts: 1,914 Forumite
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    lisyloo wrote: »
    Yep, we all expected Boris/tories to blame the Eu.
    Must admit I didn’t expect it so soon.
    Makes it easier for Corbyn to call a vote of no confidence as boris plan to negotiate a new deal is already dead in the water.

    Boris’ plan is to
    1. Have a clear and simple plan
    2. Get the polls in his favour
    3. Blame the eu if they won’t budge on a deal
    3. Blame anti-democratic MPs if he has to fight an election

    It’s going to be the greatest and most divisive election campaign in modern times. I can’t wait.
  • phillw
    phillw Posts: 5,665 Forumite
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    edited 6 August 2019 at 3:56PM
    SpiderLegs wrote: »
    It’s going to be the greatest and most divisive election campaign in modern times. I can’t wait.

    If it wasn't so important then I'd agree. Boris has to be stopped.
    BikingBud wrote: »
    "We are not seeing any evidence of the Brexit impact," said Willie Walsh,

    British Airways has not detected any change in ticket bookings as a result of uncertainty around Brexit.

    Nice, totally meaningless propaganda.

    The people who can't afford to fly BA, still can't afford to fly BA.

    Leave voters aren't uncertain, they'll continue to book BA.

    Remain voters need to get away now, because with sterling set to slump to dollar parity then they might not get another chance.

    Business trips need to be made, because they need to get ahead of the storm.

    Meanwhile, brexit uncertainty hasn't affected peoples requirement to eat, drink & breath.
  • Zuzel
    Zuzel Posts: 188 Forumite
    phillw wrote: »
    If it wasn't so important then I'd agree. Boris has to be stopped.
    Too late.
    Your lot tried that with T. May.
    :T
  • phillw
    phillw Posts: 5,665 Forumite
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    edited 6 August 2019 at 4:06PM
    Zuzel wrote: »
    Too late.
    Your lot tried that with T. May.
    :T

    It's not too late, your lot needs to prepare to drown your sorrows with your mate nige down the pub :beer:
    Zuzel wrote: »
    If they continue to refuse to negotiate a deal as Article 50 says the EU must, since their proposal has been rejected three times by Britains MP's we surely have an excellent case to do as Trump suggested long ago and sue.
    :D

    The negotations have already concluded. They are all on holiday now. They gave an extension for the UK to decide how to proceed, they've made their view point clear & will just keep re-iterating. Nothing in the rules says they need to back down on anything.

    Boris is going to have to get it from all sides very soon as he can't deliver what he's promised, nobody sane believes that the EU are the ones stalling and the red bus court case could resurface at any time..

    You shouldn't believe what Trump says, he is like Boris & Farage
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    Welcome new poster, Zuzel ;)
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    Been away for a while.
    Did you all miss me? :)
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • Zuzel
    Zuzel Posts: 188 Forumite
    phillw wrote: »
    It's not too late, your lot needs to prepare to drown your sorrows with your mate nige down the pub :beer:



    The negotations have already concluded. They are all on holiday now. They gave an extension for the UK to decide how to proceed, they've made their view point clear & will just keep re-iterating. Nothing in the rules says they need to back down on anything.

    Boris is going to have to get it from all sides very soon as he can't deliver what he's promised, nobody sane believes that the EU are the ones stalling the negotations and the red bus court case could resurface at any time..

    You shouldn't believe what Trump says, he is like Boris & Farage
    :rotfl:
    Whatever it is you're drinking you seriously need to cut down judging from that.
    Still, such despair is only natural now we're on the verge of actually leaving.
  • Zuzel
    Zuzel Posts: 188 Forumite
    mayonnaise wrote: »
    Welcome new poster, Zuzel ;)
    New?
    I've been here months .... how long have you been away for, exactly - and was it through choice or forced?
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